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Re: Tell HN: Meta is down

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Post by breakpointalpha »

yomismoaqui wrote: post #119

I remember that time when FB went down and engineers couldn't even enter the building to fix it. "Sheera Frenkel, a tech reporter for the New York Times, told the BBC part of the reason it took so long to fix was because "the people trying to figure out what this problem was couldn't even physically get into the building" to work out what had gone wrong." https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-58800670

I don't understand why "break the door down" wouldn't be the most immediate course of action by a senior engineer in that situation. I'll get my tools.

Re: Tell HN: Meta is down

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Post by pstoll »

breakpointalpha wrote: post #131
yomismoaqui wrote: post #119

I remember that time when FB went down and engineers couldn't even enter the building to fix it. "Sheera Frenkel, a tech reporter for the New York Times, told the BBC part of the reason it took so long to fix was because "the people trying to figure out what this problem was couldn't even physically get into the building" to work out what had gone wrong." https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-58800670

I don't understand why "break the door down" wouldn't be the most immediate course of action by a senior engineer in that situation. I'll get my tools.

“In the building” the building happened to be their secure data centers, not their offices.

Re: Tell HN: Meta is down

#133

Post by breakpointalpha »

pstoll wrote: post #132
breakpointalpha wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why "break the door down" wouldn't be the most immediate course of action by a senior engineer in that situation. I'll get my tools.

“In the building” the building happened to be their secure data centers, not their offices.

There's nothing truly secure from a group of highly motivated nerds.

Re: Tell HN: Meta is down

#134

Post by hsuduebc2 »

mgrunwald_ wrote: post #124
hsuduebc2 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their applications are riddled with bugs. This is generally not that uncommon.

Ironically, their Ad/Business tools are the worst offenders. I need to use them but I feel like I'm in a perpetual state of fighting their software.

Oh I always assumed that their UI/UX and general apps are trash because people today basically must use them and I assumed that the money making part of the ecosystem would be flawless.

Now that I'm saying that, people also don't have any other chance when placing ads.

I do not understand how can someone with so much money produce such a low quality products. You can't spend it all on metaverse.

Re: Tell HN: Meta is down

#135

Post by jacques_chester »

hsuduebc2 wrote: post #134
mgrunwald_ wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ironically, their Ad/Business tools are the worst offenders. I need to use them but I feel like I'm in a perpetual state of fighting their software.

Oh I always assumed that their UI/UX and general apps are trash because people today basically must use them and I assumed that the money making part of the ecosystem would be flawless. Now that I'm saying that, people also don't have any other chance when placing ads. I do not understand how can someone with so much money produce such a low quality products. You can't spend it all on metaverse.

> I do not understand how can someone with so much money produce such a low quality products.

It's what management rewards.

Re: Tell HN: Meta is down

#136

Post by hsuduebc2 »

jacques_chester wrote: post #135
hsuduebc2 wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh I always assumed that their UI/UX and general apps are trash because people today basically must use them and I assumed that the money making part of the ecosystem would be flawless. Now that I'm saying that, people also don't have any other chance when placing ads. I do not understand how can someone with so much money produce such a low quality products. You can't spend it all on metaverse.

> I do not understand how can someone with so much money produce such a low quality products. It's what management rewards.

Why would they reward non functioning chat interface?

Re: Tell HN: Meta is down

#139

Post by molszanski »

danielbln wrote: post #128
molszanski wrote: post #40

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I wouldn't credit AI before we know more Maybe our hero is a human

There were no outages before AI, also no bad code and every PR was a work of art.

The joke was that the outage of the brain slop hq was a good thing and the person was a hero

Re: Tell HN: Meta is down

#140

Post by jacques_chester »

hsuduebc2 wrote: post #136
jacques_chester wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I do not understand how can someone with so much money produce such a low quality products. It's what management rewards.

Why would they reward non functioning chat interface?

Basically:

1. You smash out rubbish as quickly as you can.

2. You get credit for "shipping" and "moving fast".

3. It is later learned by management that the rubbish is rubbish. But crucially, they do not view bugs as arising from how the work was done. Rather, it is treated as if it is an uncontrollable natural process.

4. Fixing high-profile rubbish is prioritized.

5. The rubbish is smothered with still more rubbish that moves the observable rubbishness to elsewhere in the codebase.

6. You get credit for "better engineering" and "moving fast".

Nobody is properly incentivized to prevent rubbish. Only to produce it and then to produce more of it.

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