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OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Don’t worry, you have ~30 days, that should be enough for you to audit your entire org. /s

That number has no connection to the actual system.

I can’t see any suggestion that accounts already 12 months since they were deactivated won’t be nuked in July. You’re potentially getting a months notice in the short term.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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post #87

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I’ve seen a lot of people have issues with git, because this is going on in the background and they don’t realize it. They’ll change branches, then OneDrive sees files are missing, so it starts pulling them back down. It makes a mess. Any new hire we get, we need to make sure to explicitly tell them not to keep their code in a folder managed by OneDrive, but they never listen. They speak up about a month later, compl…

It is irritating how Microsoft markets onedrive as a backup solution, because then people think 'oh, we have onedrive, why do we need another backup solution?', when onedrive is so unsuited to being the working copy of so many different kinds of data.

> It is irritating how Microsoft markets onedrive as a backup solution

Microsoft has a long history of messing with user files (Sharepoint checkout to "My Documents" wherever "My Documents" points today. Avoid at all cost.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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One drive is an insanely poorly implemented solution to a problem nobody really had. For enterprise companies, ones I've worked in at least, they will auto sync the users folder /c/Users/(name) with one drive, but there is some weird alternative they have to set on the windows system to actually use a workspace for the user. So when I'm on site somewhere, and have no access to a network that's safe, I can't access fi…

OneDrive likes to come back when O365 updates I think, but you might be able to change the settings to just not back those dirs up?

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Isn't sharepoint itself a cobbled together on top of Microsoft Exchange mailboxes?

Plus some WebDAV hacks via the MS Frontpage HTML editor! Truly great software engineering and design.

Don't forget the worst SQL Server database I have ever seen. Single threaded hacks all throughout because it so shitty it can't deal with parallel queries.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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That number has no connection to the actual system.

I can’t see any suggestion that accounts already 12 months since they were deactivated won’t be nuked in July. You’re potentially getting a months notice in the short term.

Looking into the actual announcements, they're not 100% clear but I'd be shocked if they skipped the archival period for old accounts. But also they originally announced this a long time ago and the official page says they've been rolling it out since January last year.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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post #74

In an enterprise environment onedrive is perfectly fine. Yet so many developers think they're to good for it. They save their things outside of onedrive and low and behold they lose data. Its so dumb and im yet to hear a good reason why they couldnt have used onedrive.

I am on an enterprise environment. I had non stop issues with OneDrive, such as OneDrive process always pegged at 100% CPU, files not synching, files going cloud-only and inaccessible without Internet, and issues in git repos. I go out of my way to avoid OneDrive at any cost, including the cost of using a separate backup system for my files.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Data request. Or just sue them.

You make it sound way simpler than it is. Their ToS are probably written in a way they are fully protected in cases like this.

ToS are not laws and can not override laws. If you are in any civilized jurisdiction, such as EU, you can sue.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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post #24

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Data loss and storage is always a challenge, that's why companies will have network drives, network storage that's not strongly coupled with your account acess. OneDrive doesn't solve the problem in a clean way. It adds an extra layer of brittleness.

Network drives mean no local retention and no real good answer for Windows+Mac+Android+iOS clients to remotely access the files. It also doesn't solve sharing those files externally with granular permissions. All of these kinds things need protection against data loss and centralized control+management, not just the user folder alone.

> Network drives mean no local retention

Technically speaking, Windows does support client-side caching on network drives. I've used it in the past for a highly limited number of users (read: me, on a personal share) and it works kind of like OneDrive/Dropbox/other cloud platform. But it's really rough and doesn't handle conflicts well.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/iis/web-hosting/configurin...

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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And as someone who worked and still works in IT support, users will not save to network drives, their machine will crash and files will be lost. YES, you can do GPO redirect desktop etc to network drive but needs a VPN and sync is also slow. OneDrive has solved this, like it or not. >So when I'm on site somewhere, and have no access to a network that's safe, I can't access files that are in my documents folder, pictu…

Id rather the people being irresponsible with their files lose them than me randomly. My IT even set up my downloads folder to sync... my job involves downloading 4gb files and throwing them away after I run a script on them frequently...

That sounds more like an issue with your relationship with your IT guy than OneDrive as a product.

Not necessarily blaming you for the relationship fault, but someone forcing using the software improperly isn't really a failure of the software.

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