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I suspect the recent space X S&P decision had something to do with public perception.
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Citizens United did a lot to effectively legalize foreign influence as well, since the mechanism is opaque transfer of money But regardless, most people's threat models should discount based on geographic and political distance. All else being equal, chinese surveillance is a bigger threat to you if you're in china than if you're in the us, and vice versa
> Citizens United did a lot to effectively legalize foreign influence as well, since the mechanism is opaque transfer of money Here's hoping Hawaii blazes a path forward. https://natlawreview.com/article/hawaii-governor-signs-first...
This is going to end up being a nice little windfall for the attorneys and otherwise just clog the Federal court system.
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Is "taboo" the right word? "taboo" = "banned on grounds of morality or taste". Not sending data to known IP thieves, state actors, and competitors in China (or Russia or Israel) seems very rational.
The real advantage of the Chinese models is that they do not phone home at all. They run locally unlike their US competitors. So odd that your erroneous criticism is at the top of HN. EDIT: I'd love to hear my downvoters' objections. Is it possible that the mechanism that is promoting erroneous information is also demoting its correction?
There are hosted and self-hosted Chinese models. There are hosted and self-hosted US models.
DeepSeek’s hosted offering processes your data in mainland China and trains on it. It’s in their privacy policy
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I don't think it's a stretch that you can train/align a model to avoid "hatespeech" or other topics deemed $Unacceptable you can align a model to favor a certain ideological viewpoint and have that alignment subtly influence the output. How do most Chinese models handle Tienanmen square or discussions on Han superiority?
Oh sure, no one said you can't train a model to do this. You certainly can. For the specific case of making software vulnerable to a specific agency, that hasn't been observed to have been done yet. Not because it can't be, but because no one has for now. If it were done, it would be easy(ish) to detect, since it'll be reproducible.
Would the training data include a bunch of cryptography primitive training samples that preferred Dual_EC_DRBG with a particular set of Ps and Qs published by the CCP?
How many words did I read in this article before I realized it wasn't written by AI? 10? 20? A paragraph or two? It's quite strange that it's very easy to detect AI in writing.
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Most American companies are using frontier or near frontier models. And OpenRouter’s architecture makes it inherently a compliance nightmare. It’s much easier for the typical company to go with a provider where they can pay as they go and have a single data processing agreement.
> OpenRouter’s architecture makes it inherently a compliance nightmare Why?
Using something like Bedrock is a lot easier for compliance because the only processor is Amazon.
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Many of the Chinese models are open weights, so if you are concerned about them "phoning home", then anyone can just self-host and run them themself, or use via a US provider such as OpenRouter.
There's a higher-order concern here that I'm paranoid enough to voice: that if used as a coding agent, an AI model affiliated with a country's government might try to make my software susceptible to attacks by that government's intelligence forces. And note that I'm not singling out China here.
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Except you provided no argument. Explain why the AI gang, like a rich kid who run a high debt at the Casino, during their drunken weekend in Vegas...is frenetically calling on daddy US to bail them out: "US officials eye government stakes in AI companies" - https://www.reuters.com/legal/transactional/us-officials-eye... "Trump to meet AI leaders to discuss US investment in their companies" - https://www.bbc.com/news/…
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"What we know about the plan to give Americans an equity stake in AI" - https://www.ft.com/content/8559a3f9-86de-4a1c-8a75-6623e83e6...
"OpenAI discussed government loan guarantees for chip plants, not data centers, Altman says" - https://www.reuters.com/business/openai-does-not-want-govern...
This is kind of a winding, long-winded way of saying that AI models are going to be commoditized, mostlikely by the Chinese. This has been my position ever since DeepSeek came out. It is a national security interest for China for an American company not to "own" AI. And they will release models to make that not happen. We aren't yet at the point where running local models can compete with DC type infrastructure but i…
>> In 3-5 years the NVidia hardware you buy will be several times cheaper and faster than what we have now. That will massively depreciate existing investments because it will ultimately come down to performance-per-Watt but if a theoretical G100 can do 3-4x of the inference of an H100 for the same power, the older hardware just won't be able to compete. And this is the core of why this will all end in tears. You hav…