Not to be confused with the fantastic AI Now institute, run by Meredith Whittaker of Signal among others.
Almost feels like name squatting
Notes from the Mistral AI Now Summit
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#134I really want Europe to be part of the AI development and research. And I strongly cheered for Mistral. But they are accumulating too much technological delay. This needs to be fixed, otherwise it will turn into yet another proof we are not able to run large tech with good results. Basically any Chinese lab is doing much better. It's not Mistral that created I don't want to say DeepSeek, but MiMo 2.5, Minimax 2.7, an…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_Intelligence_Act#Pe... Europe shot itself in the dick with this hastily implemented at the height of mass hysteria bullshit and now no sane company will build anything there. an AI startup in the US or China can be a boy and his computer. in Europe, the boy needs a dozen lawyers. Mistral's sinking into irrelevancy despite the head start they had, the very promising early model…
You don't compete with anthrophopic from the basement. For that you need either a shit loads of money, or a government which are not afraid of getting very very involved.
There is a lot of Europeans working on AI, it's just that a lot of them work for American companies. Because of money.
Re: Notes from the Mistral AI Now Summit
#135Oh most prominent eu ai company . Without reading an article predict next, will update after : 1. They give up on building competitive models. It’s time to drink wine not to struggle with competition 2. Because of #1 they will talk a bit about something around llms maybe coding agents , and after start talking about sovereignty.
Unlike you, who drank the wine before writing the comment.
Re: Notes from the Mistral AI Now Summit
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree. I am a paying Le Chat Pro user, really rooting for a European alternative. But the quality difference between Mistral and the frontier labs is growing too big to ignore. It’s worrying to me that they didn’t talk much about new models at the conference, because that is really where their focus should be IMHO. I am wondering what is keeping them back, though: Money? Compute? Skills? Training data? My fear is t…
> what is keeping them back, though: Money? Compute? Skills? Training data? All of the above and more. Everything holding Mistral back is the same thing that has held Europe back from competing in the entire digital revolution. See this 1991 article lamenting the loss of any viable European PC manufacturer: https://www.nytimes.com/1991/04/22/business/europe-stumbles-... Mistral being in Europe is disadvantaged with:…
> 2. Talent & compute: due to #1, Silicon Valley can outbid Europe for the best talent and hardware. Watch an OpenAI launch video and listen to all the European accents.
There is definitely a lot of truth to that. Maybe a bit of an arbitrary measure, but these are the nationalites of the people that wrote the "Attention is all you need" paper. Pretty revealing I find:
Ashish Vaswani: India
Niki Parmar: India
Jakob Uszkoreit: Germany
Llion Jones: Wales (UK)
Aidan Gomez: Canada
Łukasz Kaiser: Poland
Illia Polosukhin: Ukraine
Noam Shazeer: USA
Re: Notes from the Mistral AI Now Summit
#137> BNP Paribas runs Mistral models on-prem for KYC in Belgium, with sensitive data staying within the bank's walls. Abanca is using agent orchestration to handle sensitive customer information at a huge scale (2 million customers in their app). For European companies in regulated industries, this is a good alternative to relying on US hyperscalers. Mistral leaning into on-prem and European-hosted models is very smart.
Respectfully, I don't think it's "very" smart. It is a fair option given their limited options? Everyone is doing FDE or (customer engineering to be more transparent) because otherwise they will just be seen as markup on token cost. And the Neo-SaaS companies will take the money instead. Who else will buy their AI? and what other options do they have?
You don’t think it’s smart to get reliable funding this way? From Banking the Cash Cow?
Devstral is getting better, it’s the Vibe harness that’s holding it back (I think). I can see how that would drive some business as well.
Their chat thingie isn’t very well positioned, but gets results. Could be an euro or two per month, maybe bundled with some more features. It’s not like Mistral has no options, if anything they’re just a bit complacent and not ambitious with their plans.
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
> what is keeping them back, though: Money? Compute? Skills? Training data? All of the above and more. Everything holding Mistral back is the same thing that has held Europe back from competing in the entire digital revolution. See this 1991 article lamenting the loss of any viable European PC manufacturer: https://www.nytimes.com/1991/04/22/business/europe-stumbles-... Mistral being in Europe is disadvantaged with:…
You say that as if the American version of maximalist Capitalism is good or desirable to most people. Personally, I would much rather have good public pensions and health-care, than A.I agents.
This has nothing to do with it.
The US also has public pensions (social security payouts rival or beat many EU countries) with dramatically better tax free private options on top.
Also, the US has free healthcare (Medicare and Medicaid) for roughly 50% of its population.
Expanding that to 100% doesn’t suddenly make them a bad country to do business in.
You think OpenAI is going to close up shop and move to Mexico if the US expands single payer healthcare? That would actually make it even easier for businesses to operate in the US!
Re: Notes from the Mistral AI Now Summit
#139I just got an email from them saying that they’re retiring some (most?) of the dedicated models like devstral gradually through August and one should now use the general model. Cost grows exponentially
Devstral 2 (devstral-2512 and devstral-latest) → We recommend transitioning to Mistral Medium 3.5 (mistral-medium-3-5 with reasoning_effort set to "high"), a stronger model, priced $1.5/$7.5 per million input/output tokens (change from the previous $0.4/$2).
Re: Notes from the Mistral AI Now Summit
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> what is keeping them back, though: Money? Compute? Skills? Training data? All of the above and more. Everything holding Mistral back is the same thing that has held Europe back from competing in the entire digital revolution. See this 1991 article lamenting the loss of any viable European PC manufacturer: https://www.nytimes.com/1991/04/22/business/europe-stumbles-... Mistral being in Europe is disadvantaged with:…
>The average EU citizen can barely communicate with their neighbor in a common language beyond the level of a toddler (english fluency is massively overstated by Americans who only experience tourist capitals). Not true in my experience: even German waiters in small towns tend to have pretty fluent English.
Was just driving around medium and small-ish towns in Bavaria. This was not my experience at all.
The German speaking members of our group had to order food for us in most restaurants.
And most locals aren’t waiters in restaurants.