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Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Face reality my friend, Internet is now hostile to humans. Time to leave this place for good.

At least the internet is not one single place, and while I can't speak for anyone I think I've managed to avoid most of the AI generated internet.

How? I'm genuinely interested.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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The detectors aren’t great but they aren’t really the issue. The fact that LLMs make it so easy to impersonate human communication is precisely the problem here. There cannot be a reliable way to identify if something is from a human or not. And the ease of access and low price makes using LLM generated content a no brainer, you have to actively go out of your way to produce human generated content. We are building a…

> We are building a future where human contact will be scarce Yes, until you remember there is a world outside of the screen, where people build things with their hands, use their physically to play instruments for others, paint beautiful things for others to see physically and so much more. "Humanness" online been dead for decades already, if you want humanness you need to step outside, or at least invite other huma…

There is a meaningful difference between “humans online are tribalistic” and “content consumed by humans is generated by machines”. The IRL world isn’t safe either, books, newspapers, advertising, speeches are/will be heavily LLM made. Political parties are using LLMs. The IRL humans are relying on what their LLMs summarized or searched for them.

The same way the online world has never actually been that distinct from the offline world, one is merged with the other and they influence each others.

There has been of humanness online of you do not look for it on social medias. But that’s now breaking down, because we developed a technology designed to impersonate human communication

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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>But even when I talk to people, they forward my questions to AI and send me the AI’s answer. This is the killer issue. It's so profoundly saddenning, it feels like watching an adult being asked a question and calling mom to answer for them. There is something deeply disturbing in it that makes me feel I'm not talking to a self sufficient entity.

It's like asking someone to deadlift a dresser and move it to another room, even though they have a dolly right next to them. Should they be able to? It depends. Should you expect them to? No, that's just odd.

It's more like asking someone to use a toilet when they have a perfectly good set of pants they're wearing, already on them. Thinking is what makes you human, don't give it up so easily.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

#135

One of the most amazing things happened during the day long power cut in 2025 in Spain and Portugal... eventually the cell towers went down and everyone just went to the parks and socialised. Connected with friends, strangers. Everyone was so in the moment because there was nowhere else to be, nothing else to distract them. People would pick up their phone and realise there was nothing there for them and put it back…

People can't even keep up discussions. Most of the population is totally dumbened down, like on the levels of barely functioning monkeys.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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So if these do not work, to what do you attribute the rising positive rate?

Humans writing more like LLMs, just like new LLMs write more like humans, it's all coalescing into one. I've copied-pasted comments I made on HN from like 2020 and had it tell me it's "100% AI". I've seen examples where the services claim "100% AI" because there was no normal dashes, only em-dashes. Even have a recent example from HN itself: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48165690 > This reads very AI. Pangram…

Your evidence seems very anecdata. The graphite.io study does make an effort to quantify the false positive and false negative rates of the three detectors, rather than just saying “they work”. They generate 2000 ai articles and ask the detectors to evaluate them, measuring the false negatives (articles falsely IDd as human written); and they use a separate pre-AI dataset (years 2000-2022) to determine false positives.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

#137

Face reality my friend, Internet is now hostile to humans. Time to leave this place for good.

At least the internet is not one single place, and while I can't speak for anyone I think I've managed to avoid most of the AI generated internet.

> I think I've managed to avoid most of the AI generated internet.

I honestly am not sure that one can know that that is true anymore. Probably the only place left that I have any confidence in is maybe the small discords I'm in with various friend groups with <30 people that all know each other IRL.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

#138
In the video game Cyberpunk 2077, the "Net" is overrun by rouge AI and eventually humanity has to quarantine itself from them, ironically, using another AI.

I wonder if a similar fate awaits us?

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

#139

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> We are building a future where human contact will be scarce Yes, until you remember there is a world outside of the screen, where people build things with their hands, use their physically to play instruments for others, paint beautiful things for others to see physically and so much more. "Humanness" online been dead for decades already, if you want humanness you need to step outside, or at least invite other huma…

There is a meaningful difference between “humans online are tribalistic” and “content consumed by humans is generated by machines”. The IRL world isn’t safe either, books, newspapers, advertising, speeches are/will be heavily LLM made. Political parties are using LLMs. The IRL humans are relying on what their LLMs summarized or searched for them. The same way the online world has never actually been that distinct fro…

Right, what I was talking about things that generally aren't done by AI. People aren't building sculptures with AI, no graffiti is made with AI, the oil paintings you can see in galleries aren't AI, the DJ that fucks up during a performance isn't AI.

There is so much humanity in the world outside of the screen, and it's really easy to see what is authentically made, ignore the rest. Find live events with real other humans, there are a ton of them out there, doesn't really matter how people find the events, as long as we put our bodies in the same physical space.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

#140
The company I work at tries to solve it right now, not promoting, just want to share.

Slop is no fun to deal with, so we have a thesis that slop should be left for agents to read and human-to-human communication should happen outside of passing empty fluffy docs to one another. To realise that, we have a workspace with group chats where multiple agents and humans can work together and agents can engage with humans for additional information when needed. The challenge is, of course, to find the right level of autonomy for the agents and let the agent learn and follow user's workflows well enough to be useful.

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