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Magnifica Humanitas

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Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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Post by twoodfin »

AI tends to amplify the power of those who already possess economic resources, expertise and access to data

I’d bet the other way: You could have said exactly the same thing about computing 60 years ago, when IBM systems cost millions of dollars and filled whole rooms. And of course many people did.

Personal, commodity access to compute won, and won so thoroughly that it enabled this wave of scary compute centralization.

Centralized, scaled compute will always fill a purpose. But neither Microsoft, nor Facebook, nor OpenAI started out needing “Cloud Scale”.

The first one man unicorn startup will, I’m fairly certain, not be paying Anthropic per month or per token for the vast bulk of their matmul.

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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Post by dgellow »

fgaanb wrote: post #124

The Pope is making a fundamental mistake here: His advisors told him that AI works and needs to be managed. He does not address plagiarism, the fact that AI is mostly a surveillance and IP laundering tool, the fact that AI hasn't achieved much so far. You could say it has achieved nothing if compared to the whole history of human ingenuity, certainly not in CS. He should have compared AI to the golden calf. His criti…

Are people seriously turning towards their religions for a take on intellectual property rights?

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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Post by dgellow »

netfortius wrote: post #67

As an atheist I have an obligation to finish reading it all (still going through, and taking notes, probably having to revisit), but I am not sure how many (christian) believers will feel the same.

As an atheist and even anti-theist I see no such obligation. What a strange thing to say

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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Post by hootz »

customguy wrote: post #27
hootz wrote: post #16

How many Catholics will put the encyclical to be summarized through an LLM?

If you asked all the LLM to find flaws in the arguments presented, and to come up with counter-arguments, I doubt many current models would be so bad as to come up with that , and even the ones that did would fold when asked "how is that even an argument?".

This was not an attempt at an argument, it was a sarcastic joke on how a lot of people are already dependent on AI, even on things that you weren't supposed to use LLMs for, but I guess I failed at it.

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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Post by fgaanb »

dgellow wrote: post #133
fgaanb wrote: post #124

The Pope is making a fundamental mistake here: His advisors told him that AI works and needs to be managed. He does not address plagiarism, the fact that AI is mostly a surveillance and IP laundering tool, the fact that AI hasn't achieved much so far. You could say it has achieved nothing if compared to the whole history of human ingenuity, certainly not in CS. He should have compared AI to the golden calf. His criti…

Are people seriously turning towards their religions for a take on intellectual property rights?

Technically it is one of the ten commandments.

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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Post by Ardren »

jaybrendansmith wrote: post #60

Why downvote this? The Holy See has an opinion on Artificial Intelligence? This is a fascinating document, and everybody should read it, and form their own opinions. The world currently seems to lack moral leadership, and who better to lead the cause of humanity than the Catholic Church?

> who better to lead the cause of humanity than the Catholic Church?

Oh no, is my sarcasm meter broken?

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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Post by polotics »

What kind of regulation is Leo the alignment expert proposing exactly?

Occam's Razor says this is Anthropic trying to build a regulatory moat by leveraging some halo effect.

Maybe Leo should focus on finding a way to disconnect western society from their current cult-of-progress delusions? Could be a better use of the infallible man's pulpit?

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

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Post by morningsam »

gooseyman wrote: post #69

The em-dashes present within the writing made me pause and consider how much of this was written/exited by AI. Quick browse through pre-AI works from John Paul II show em-dashes present.

Someone did an analysis and concluded that it appear to be at least partly (~10-15%) LLM-generated, or at least LLM-translated (see comments): https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/s58hDHX2GkFDbpGKD/linch-s-sh...
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