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Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by colordrops »

willio58 wrote: post #120
browningstreet wrote: post #71

I’ve almost entirely given up on managing music. Just done with it. I listen to soma.fm and radioparadise.com .. I read one music magazine and listen to some of the music recommendations from there, but following any of it, over time, is a lost cause for me. I was just remarking to someone how music apps are the least interesting, personal, and innovative of all the things I live with. Examples: we still can’t manage…

Hop on plex amp. Take control of your music. I realize that sounds like an Ad but I’ve been using it for a few months and I feel like I’ve rediscovered my joy for music again.

OrJellyfin or Navidrome if you want to use free open source that does a decent enough job.

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by ok_dad »

mtrovo wrote: post #104
browningstreet wrote: post #71

I’ve almost entirely given up on managing music. Just done with it. I listen to soma.fm and radioparadise.com .. I read one music magazine and listen to some of the music recommendations from there, but following any of it, over time, is a lost cause for me. I was just remarking to someone how music apps are the least interesting, personal, and innovative of all the things I live with. Examples: we still can’t manage…

Youtube Music is quite good for what you're describing.

YouTube music’s recommendations suck hard compared to Spotify and all the people I know who use it (a dozen) say the same thing. The only reason any of us use it seems to be because we only want to pay for one music service and we all use YouTube premium anyways. It’s amazing how big a hole that is in the service, that everyone I know agrees with the same thing.

I gave up on recommendations and I just playlist my own music preferences over time. Like in the days of old.

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by lbreakjai »

ascorbic wrote: post #81
iamalizard wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never understood the issue with scalping and reselling tickets for a higher price. At all. And I've read a bunch of opinions here and on other forums and articles. None make any sense to me. It's a good that's being resold for profit. Not an essential one like rare medicine during a pandemic. I think some artists want to appeal to the poorer people so pricing their tickets higher or letting the free market work out…

This would make sense if they were an airline and only need to maximise profits. An artist – even one who really wants to make as much money as they can – still needs to think about other things, like atmosphere (that gig with one very rich person won't be much fun), and happy fans. If she sells all tickets at $10k each then maybe she'd clear the market, but she'd piss off a lot of fans, so maybe there won't be as mu…

There's a very easy solution. Put the name of the owner on the ticket. Limit the number of tickets per person. Verify the identity before entering the premises. Allow the resale at face value via the organiser's platform. Allow to resell your ticket at face value to a specific person, for the case where the friend who bought the tickets six months ago is suddenly sick.

I don't know why this is being made to look like an insurmountable problem. We're talking about multi-billion dollar companies, organising billion dollar tours.

> If she sells all tickets at $10k each then maybe she'd clear the market, but she'd piss off a lot of fans

If I was conspiracy-minded, I'd say blaming "the scalpers" would be a very convenient way of dodging responsibilities while taking a cut.

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by basisword »

jmuguy wrote: post #22
joshl32532 wrote: post #10

This is the problem with public listed companies that need to "maximize shareholder values" and look for infinite growth. I just want Spotify for music (playlist, recommendation, lossless audio). I don't need their podcast, audiobook, ChatGPT, concert tickets etc. This just makes their app bloated for features I will never use.

Another reason to use Bandcamp and just buy music. Of course then you've gotta setup a whole stack to store it, make it available to your devices, etc etc. I dunno, Spotify certainly isn't going to get better at this point. Best we can hope is that they die and something better takes their place.

If you're on Apple devices it's $25 a year for iTunes Match. You can throw all your Bandcamp purchases into the Music app and they'll be available across your devices.

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by crazygringo »

HDThoreaun wrote: post #128
bradleybuda wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Transferring tickets to friends is functionally indistinguishable from scalping

The problem with scalping is scale. A single person reselling a single ticket is completely fine, because that is not a viable business model for enough people to distort the market. Just limit the number of tickets someone can buy to 3-5.

A scalper just pretends to be 200 different people. With 200 different emails and 200 different credit cards.

Limiting the number of tickets someone can buy doesn't protect against scalping.

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by trvz »

falkensmaize wrote: post #130
willio58 wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hop on plex amp. Take control of your music. I realize that sounds like an Ad but I’ve been using it for a few months and I feel like I’ve rediscovered my joy for music again.

Given that Plex just bumped their lifetime subscription price to $750, I can no longer recommend them. They are clearly more interested in becoming another streaming service, and are I think trying to push out their core users who probably make them very little money.

It’s worth 750, which is about ten years worth of yearly subscriptions.

Plex is 16 years old and the Lindy effect applies.

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by babypuncher »

browningstreet wrote: post #71

I’ve almost entirely given up on managing music. Just done with it. I listen to soma.fm and radioparadise.com .. I read one music magazine and listen to some of the music recommendations from there, but following any of it, over time, is a lost cause for me. I was just remarking to someone how music apps are the least interesting, personal, and innovative of all the things I live with. Examples: we still can’t manage…

I just never stopped downloading music. We have modern download stores selling CD-quality music completely DRM free. I like knowing that no matter what happens short of an actual apocalypse, I will never lose access to any of my music.

I recently learned that two tracks on one of my favorite recent albums are straight up missing on streaming services. This only strengthened my resolve to stay the hell away from them.

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by rchaud »

criddell wrote: post #102
something765478 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree; Spotify is good at serving up sound, so it makes sense for them to also serve audiobooks and podcasts; just like it makes sense for video streaming services to have both movies and tv shows. Similarly for concerts; people who listen to a lot of music are probably interested in going to see their favorite band live. Mind you, I definitely have complaints about the app (like notifications interrupting music…

> I also understand why they want to expand I'd have fewer complaints if I could hide the sections I'm not interested in (new releases, audiobooks, podcasts, concerts, etc...).

it's in their interest for them to show you more things that they don't need to pay record labels royalties for.

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by babypuncher »

trvz wrote: post #136
falkensmaize wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that Plex just bumped their lifetime subscription price to $750, I can no longer recommend them. They are clearly more interested in becoming another streaming service, and are I think trying to push out their core users who probably make them very little money.

It’s worth 750, which is about ten years worth of yearly subscriptions. Plex is 16 years old and the Lindy effect applies.

There is so much good free software out there for playing music that I have a hard time believing PlexAmp is worth $750.

They know it's not worth it either, they just want to push more users to the monthly subscription for that sweet ARR.

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by jlarocco »

This is good to know. If they roll it out it like their other "features", it's going to reserve the tickets for you even if you don't want them.

Or they're going to put it as a drop down from the "Repeat" button, or something stupid like that, to cause people to click it by accident.

And when you disable it in the settings they'll stop, but only for 6 months when they cram it down your throat again in a new place in the UI.

I secretly wish Spotify would fire their entire product and dev teams, allow third party clients again, and just focus their energy on increasing their catalog and paying artists more.

I don't want to see lyrics, I don't want AI shuffling, I don't want videos, I don't want concert tickets.

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