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Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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As long as the legacy systems have billions of users. Otherwise they get shutdown once people run out of interest. See https://killedbygoogle.com/

You might have missed it but the OP's comment was dripping in literal sarcasm. Google's track record for product management is poor.

I initially thought it had to be the postings of an army of sycophantic bots. Need more coffee.

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I am especially impressed with how they keep supporting Google Reader for all these years despite the declining user base, because they care so much about the existing users.

The internet changed for me the day the Reader died. Actually, in hindsight, for me personally, internet died when the Reader died.

Yep. My aspirations about how the internet was going to enable a brighter, better future for people, were instantly transformed, and instead we saw the power of tech corporations acting in their own interests. How naive I was.

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I never really used the Antigravity IDE, but had it installed. The update also made me do a double take and wonder what the hell was going on. It seems like Google is hitting the reset button on the product they call "Antigravity", existing users be damned. Fine, if you've never installed or used the previous version before... but for existing users the "bait and switch" is incredibly disorientating. My take is they…

You can't use Antigravity 2.0 on Windows with WSL. There is simply no way to connect to WSL. The agent can't run any Linux commands. Also the Antigravity CLI doesn't remember your credentials in WSL. It asks you to log in every time you run the program. And after 4 chat sessions, my ~/antigravity-server folder now takes up 4 GB.

Should be usable with ssh port forwarding?

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They could just call it anything else and left the existing user alone. I mean they have gemini CLI, which I would say a better product.

Gemini CLI is being sunsetted in mid-June and replaced by Antigravity. https://developers.googleblog.com/an-important-update-transi...

I've mostly avoided the frustration of dealing with google's product rug pulls over the years by never getting hooked on a non-gmail product.

Alas, I now feel the sting of disappointment.

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Wow, Google really fumbled this.

After reading the blog post I clicked the update button and the whole app was replaced, without much warning, with this conversation UI. It was even more jarring than I expected from the post because I figured there must be some messaging about what would happen and some way to just get to my files... but nope!

Then I downloaded the Antigravity IDE (as opposed to just Antigravity) and when I went to install it, it turns out I already had it installed!

So Google actually did an arguably ok thing with the apps - they split them into an IDE and an agent coordinator, and they kept the IDE installed so you can use it right after the update - but they didn't tell you what they were doing!!

If they had just said "Antigravity is now two apps. Which would you like to open?" everything would have been fine.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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The tone on this could be improved. They literally answered your question "What lead?" and you seem dismissive.

Yeah, you're right, maybe needlessly harsh, sorry for that. I guess I'm tired of the same argument that Google somehow had a lead in LLM development because Transformer comes from researchers who worked at Google, yet somehow what comes before/after Transformer doesn't count, coming from Google's researchers (BERT) or others (GPT), or going even earlier so, hence the whole "we stand on the shoulders of giants".

We can go round and round about all this but I think it's pretty clear that google did at one point have a large AI lead in the lead up to covid. They had models that far surpassed the competition from 2018-2022. But they were facing an innovators dilemma, didnt want to cannibalize their search revenue so they sat on LLMs which ended up creating openAI and anthropic.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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I have refused to lean too hard on agentic tooling for developing. I'm aware of the gains, I use it at my daily job. But I cannot afford to loss my brain skills, just in case they do a rug pull.

These week announcements are effectively Google doing a rug pull to its customers. Now simple changes cannot be done anymore within antigravity without it to consume its full quota.

Personally I downgraded my Google One subscription. I cannot justify paying Pro anymore, and thankfully I'm not AI dependent enough to pay Ultra.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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I pay for google "Starter" workspace. Recently I started to get harassed to upgrade. Big button in gmail, large notifications on top of my mail in the mobile app etc. Also two other buttons to get me to turn on AI features I don't need. I already pay a lot, I don't want to pay double just not to be harassed. Having buttons to features that I would have to pay extra for is one thing. But having notifications and large…

Unfortunately, even if you upgrade there are still upgrade prompts for an even higher version of Workspace and gemini.

Recently screen sharing a document I noticed a new "omg please use gemini" button they placed OVER THE DOCUMENT itself. That's in addition to the magic star thing in the right and the gemini menu item. If you're using Chrome there are the browser ai buttons, too.

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