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Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

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Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

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The problem with this logic, no matter the context where it’s deployed, is that you can always default to “you’re doing it wrong” no matter what case or situation is brought up. It’s an argument that is unfalsifiable no matter what because you can simply gesture to the person as the problem in literally any scenario. If I build a car and it consistently gets into wrecks at a rate 500x that of other cars, you can’t ju…

The problem seems to be with the sarcasm detectors.

Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

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I've decided that I'm done being pissy about this kind of response, or thinking that it's something that can be coached away. I choose to look at it like any other cultural communication difference - something that you learn about, try to give some grace to, and work a little harder to bridge (unless you're defusing a bomb, performing surgery, flying an airplane etc.). In this person's communication culture, they are…

Copy/pasting a question to LLM and pasting back the output isn't an attempt ar being helpful. It's the equivalent of a lmgtfy link.

Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

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post #67

When I'm encountering some WoT like that, I'd like to have a button like "view source", but for "view prompt". Most ai generated messages or docs are unnecessarily verbose and just reading the prompt would suffice. I don't really get why some people seem to think that it's somehow better to have their bullet point prompt as a huge text. It just wastes my time. And probably only makes it look like it took more effort…

> I don't really get why some people seem to think that it's somehow better to have their bullet point prompt as a huge text Probably people who have never wanted to put the required thinking effort in a simple, structured response to a question, and now think that "a lot of words" magically solves that skill issue.

I would have written a shorter letter, but I didn't have the time...

Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

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I've decided that I'm done being pissy about this kind of response, or thinking that it's something that can be coached away. I choose to look at it like any other cultural communication difference - something that you learn about, try to give some grace to, and work a little harder to bridge (unless you're defusing a bomb, performing surgery, flying an airplane etc.). In this person's communication culture, they are…

To me, acting in good faith means saying something like "I'm not sure, but Claude says this, which sounds right: [short informative clip from Claude's wall of text]". Don't pretend it's your response, make sure it has info you think is useful, and edit it down.

I'd prefer just "I don't know." I can ask Claude on my own.

Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

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And with a more broadly applicable example we could share the link with friends, family and coworkers who aren't on HN.

But then it wouldn’t have tickled the HN reader quite the same way and wouldn’t have gotten voted to the top. This doesn’t even need to be a website at all. This is pure slop designed in a pig lab for HN trough.

> This doesn’t even need to be a website at all

It does, because it allows for quickly sharing a prepared response instead of saying the same thing over and over. It also works because the kind of person this link gets sent to is already used to trusting random websites over their human interactions.

Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

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post #72

> Nobody writes essays in Slack I 100% write long texts in Slack. I always try to provide as much context as possible when reaching out to someone with a question or request.

Do you start every response off with "that is a great question"? I don't know any human who does. "that is a great question" is reserved either for really hard questions, or sarcasm. The majority of questions are not great, they are just things the asker needs a simple answer.

I would probably reply with "that is a great question" only as a euphemism for "I don't know"

Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

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post #67

When I'm encountering some WoT like that, I'd like to have a button like "view source", but for "view prompt". Most ai generated messages or docs are unnecessarily verbose and just reading the prompt would suffice. I don't really get why some people seem to think that it's somehow better to have their bullet point prompt as a huge text. It just wastes my time. And probably only makes it look like it took more effort…

Except often the prompt is just the previous comment. In the example, the prompt would be "Should we use Redis or Memcached?" In that case, there is nothing beneficial about the prompt, but the answer could be boiled down to a useful recommendation (from an AI, not a person).

In that case I still want to see exactly this prompt. Then I know that the person didn't even think about my question thoug I asked _them_ for their opinion and I could have asked ChatGPT myself (and already probably have).
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