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Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

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Post by rasz »

geerlingguy wrote: post #57
tonyarkles wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had similar feelings but the comments below about adding an SDR to it with an M.2 slot got me looking a little closer. This has an 8-core Rockchip A72/A53 processor and 8GB of RAM. This is not an incremental improvement over the Flipper Zero, this is something else entirely. Hmmmmm...

It's more like a portable Raspberry Pi with better efficiency and more IO. And hopefully even better mainline Linux support out of the gate. The key question will be how much it costs. Beyond $250-300, it's a lot more of a niche product. Below $250 would be very interesting. I don't think it will be below $300. With current memory and storage pricing, probably $350-400 is more realistic :(

>better mainline Linux support

haha

Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

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Post by rasz »

- Unlike Zero this looks more like Teenage Engineering product for computer nerds. Price tag will most likely match this.

- Form factor will barely fit everything (battery).

- Specs are LLM generated/hallucinated. Can tell by writing/emoji style and specs itself.

- GPIO connector pinout specced by someone with no fast digital logic experience.

- Buying flipper zero was (is it still?) pumping money to russia. Even after pretending to re-allocate their infrastructure was still in russia before being hidden behind cloudflare.

Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

#134

Post by koziserek »

johnwalkr wrote: post #18
sterlind wrote: post #4

maybe I'm blind, but it looks like there's no radio! like there's wifi and bluetooth, sure, but I don't see NFC or RFID or sub-1ghz radio, at all. imo the flipper always needed to be a software-defined transciever, with a small FPGA to drive it, like the other SDRs on the market. I'm disappointed they seem to have forsaken radio completely.

The flipper zero was already in a grey area because it easily enables one to do things in licensed bands and do things you’re not allowed to do in unlicensed bands. They can’t plausibly add even more functions in this area and still sell to the public. Presumably all of the interfaces they added are for users to add the functions under their own responsibility.

For what reason? When I buy a hammer in hardware store, can smash all the windows of parked cars nearby..

Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

#135

Post by topspin »

wolrah wrote: post #108
kstrauser wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I need evidence. I've been through TSA lots of times with mine and taking it on transcontinental flights. No one's ever cared. Last year I flew to Def Con with a Mesthtastic radio and a Raspberry Pi server strapped to my backpack, complete with cabling, and no one batted an eye. There's no regulation against carrying one around with you, including on flights.

Likewise, I've flown more in the last year than in the decade prior and every single leg my Flipper has been in the side pocket of my backpack. Never once has it received even a second look from the TSA, including also DEF CON.

It looks like a handheld gaming thing; not very interesting to people that see many similar devices every day.

Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

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Post by kristjank »

wnevets wrote: post #82
sam_lowry_ wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heh... I used Flipper Zero to clone RFID tags for all the neighbors to T5577 rings, pins, sticky pads and whatever not for our gated community. If you are adventurous, many ski stations have low-tech cards as well, although they also tend to have human controllers once in a while. And, finally, kids like running around with Flipper Zero opening power taps on Teslas.

Are smartphones not capable of cloning RFID tags?

They can clone NFC tags, if the phone hardware, drivers and software permits. It really depends on how smart the chip inside the smartphone is and how locked down its drivers are. I still keep around a Galaxy S3 because its reader does not complain when writing to UID fields of a NFC tag. Saved a lot of friends exorbitant second keyfob landlord fees.

Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

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Post by alexalx666 »

Lwrless wrote: post #124

I use my Flipper Zero weekly (or more frequent). This new model feels much more powerful than the ones based on RPi Zero as a handheld device. I like how they managed to include two RJ45 ports and a USB-A port for connectivity. However, it's still too bulky for me. Perhaps when I get one, I'll try carrying it around all day to see how it goes. There's also a nano SIM slot. With the two Ethernet ports, it's perfect fo…

The keyboard on Cardputer is horrible, I mean you already doing a special edition, why not put a decent one (almost anything would be better)

Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

#139

Post by throawayonthe »

i think this can be confidently called a cyberdeck. some may say a full massproduced commercial unit goes against the spirit of che hobby but...

there are now hardware clones and evolutions(!) of the flipper zero, community alt firmwares, add-on thingymajigs etc; if they stay as open with this one, having some 'cyberdeck r&d' done with funding might be cool

e.g. if they do a good job on the os side, it could become a cool jumping-off point for a variety of builds

note i've never actually owner a flipper device or clone :p

Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

#140

Post by mschuster91 »

koziserek wrote: post #134
johnwalkr wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The flipper zero was already in a grey area because it easily enables one to do things in licensed bands and do things you’re not allowed to do in unlicensed bands. They can’t plausibly add even more functions in this area and still sell to the public. Presumably all of the interfaces they added are for users to add the functions under their own responsibility.

For what reason? When I buy a hammer in hardware store, can smash all the windows of parked cars nearby..

Regulatory authorities aren't exactly known to care, customs officials even less, and the laws backing both are sometimes damn insane, especially when anything RF is concerned.

There are countries where you technically need a ham radio license to import a radio, even if you are theoretically allowed to use it just to listen.

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