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Japan is gripped by mass allergies. A 1950s project is to blame

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My understanding is allergies can be partially managed with placebo affect (as can mild colds!) and that is likely the reason it appears to work.

I also understand that weight lifting can help reduce allergies, since the immune system is kind of a "luxury" system that cedes resources when the body is recovering from injury, and weightlifting is deliberate minor injury. Maybe acupuncture could work through the same mechanism?

Maybe during treatment, but that mechanism wouldn't work months after stopping the treatment.

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Hmm, most German forests are also vast monoculture 'tree farms' and have been for the last 250 years (also caused by large scale deforestation in the centuries before). In the Ore Mountains we also have those yellow clouds of pollen coming off spruce trees every few years, covering everything with a thin yellow dust layer, yet I'm not aware that the number of people with pollen allergies is exceptionally high (oth, m…

I moved to Germany as an adult from a completely separate biome, and I’ve got terrible problems with allergies I never had in my home country

Same here. Some of the worst seasonal allergies I've ever had was while living in Germany. I'm not sure what exactly was responsible; my guess at the time was some sort of grass but I don't know for sure.

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Interesting. I noticed that many people have hay fever in Japan, but I always just assumed it was genetic or something. I wonder if living there for a long time will make you more sensitive to pollen

It’s known that repeated exposure to allergens can cause allergic symptoms in people previously without them. For example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_fancier%27s_lung https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmer%27s_lung I actually seemed to grow out of hay fever when I was in my early 20s. Perhaps coincidentally this is also around the time I developed an allergy to cannabis from overuse. Wonder if they’re related so…

it's a bit of a balance. based on this advice, there was a long time recommendation to avoid giving young children peanuts. however, this advice was rescinded after it turned out to increase peanut allergies.

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“Arboreal sexism” is a similar phenomenon: We prefer male trees in cities since they do not produce fruit that drop on the streets. The result is a much higher pollen load.

TIL. Trees have (biological) sex. This just blew my head. I must have been too sleepy when we saw that in high school.

It's more complicated in plants than in at least mammals. Some do, some don't, and some do and don't.

Re: Japan is gripped by mass allergies. A 1950s project is to blame

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Probably we can blame higher hygiene standards, or some other environmental factor for it. Forests haven't changed much in past decades. Here in Finland I've never been affected by any kind of tree pollen at all, but somehow timothy grass pollen gives me horrible symptoms, forcing me to take antihistamine most of the summer. I lived my childhood near farmland and forests, so definitely got exposed to both forms of po…

Yes timotej is my allergy as well. And I got it as an adult, in 2009. So 26 years without any allergies, then suddenly, one summer in Helsingborg, the air was thick with pollen. I remember the smell was like cheese doodles in the air, musty. Once I got back from an errand in the city my face was leaking, I walked to the pharmacy with blurry vision to get my first antihistamines. Ever since then every year june is a n…

> modern city planning

One theory has to do with sanitation and how well we've done at eliminating parasites. Some people have reported successfully curing allergies by giving themselves a hookworm infection.

> The fact that some local African languages contain no words to describe allergic symptoms could support this hypothesis, indicating that allergic diseases have never been a problem among these populations

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6585781/

Re: Japan is gripped by mass allergies. A 1950s project is to blame

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Hmm, most German forests are also vast monoculture 'tree farms' and have been for the last 250 years (also caused by large scale deforestation in the centuries before). In the Ore Mountains we also have those yellow clouds of pollen coming off spruce trees every few years, covering everything with a thin yellow dust layer, yet I'm not aware that the number of people with pollen allergies is exceptionally high (oth, m…

I moved to Germany as an adult from a completely separate biome, and I’ve got terrible problems with allergies I never had in my home country

I wonder to what degree it's about what you are used to. I grew up in Germany and never had allergies. However, after a few years in the Pacific Northwest I developed seasonal allergies that get worse every year.

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Pollen allergies have definitely skyrocketed in Sweden. We used to be able to sit in an office and work all year without hearing people sniffle and sneeze. Now it's like an epidemic, at least half the office is affected.

I kinda suspect it was the Covid. I didn’t have allergic reactions until I was infected with Covid. I don’t have proof though.

I got a dustmite allergy directly after a Covid infection. Also, I got no proof but it made me suspicious if there could have been a connection..

Re: Japan is gripped by mass allergies. A 1950s project is to blame

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Hmm, most German forests are also vast monoculture 'tree farms' and have been for the last 250 years (also caused by large scale deforestation in the centuries before). In the Ore Mountains we also have those yellow clouds of pollen coming off spruce trees every few years, covering everything with a thin yellow dust layer, yet I'm not aware that the number of people with pollen allergies is exceptionally high (oth, m…

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Re: Japan is gripped by mass allergies. A 1950s project is to blame

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I kinda suspect it was the Covid. I didn’t have allergic reactions until I was infected with Covid. I don’t have proof though.

I got a dustmite allergy directly after a Covid infection. Also, I got no proof but it made me suspicious if there could have been a connection..

Yeah, pretty close to what I got. Man that sucks. But I can confirm that taking exercises helps.

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The article makes the argument "there is a lot of pollen" and separately "there exist monoculture forests / tree farms" in Japan. But what it doesn't do is: 1. Argue that the pollen is worse because of monoculture relative to polyculture forests (we could mix sugi and hinoki and...I assume net pollen would be the same?) 2. Argue that lots of pollen leads to more allergies. I mean, you might think that higher levels o…

>Argue that lots of pollen leads to more allergies. With pollen, particulate size tends to matter. Pine tree pollen is very rarely an allergen because the pollen grains are huge, and I believe the body catches and rejects these pretty easily. Tiny pollen grains and ones with particular shapes can get much deeper in the lungs and aggravate things more easily.

Also, different species flower and release pollen at different times.

A monoculture forest releases all its pollen at once, instead of a fraction of it always being in flower throughout spring/summer.

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