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Post by suttontom »

dyauspitr wrote: post #122
tsco77 wrote: post #114

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Then, if the Ai bubble is truly a bubble, the giant compute warehouses can be transitioned to power plants and used to store Amazon junk for delivery instead. Wonder what the economic wonkiness looks like when energy is that abundant.

Anyone that has at least somewhat been following the space knows that this is not a bubble. Once we get to the point where these things can reliably come up with novel actions for physical robots, it’s game over. In fact, Unitree just released a video today where someone asks the robot to do something and it generates a new output action in real time. We’re very close.

They can't even reliably follow instructions from text. I think "it's just around the corner/just wait x months/just wait and see bro" is one of the most telling signs of AI psychosis.

Re: Gemini Omni

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Post by dotancohen »

jarjoura wrote: post #119
dotancohen wrote: post #95

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> The other problem is Seedance is heavily censored because of copyright concerns. Instead of censoring, wouldn't it make sense to simply not train on copyrighted materials?

The problem isn’t training data, it’s reference locking and allowing anyone to make whatever content they want.

What is reference locking?

  > allowing anyone to make whatever content they want.
One could draw a Mickey Mouse three-disc logo in inkscape, but nobody would sue inkscape because the application did not know what was being created. Likewise, asking for e.g. "a black disc, with two smaller discs tangent to it at a 105 degree angle" would not be infringing if the model never saw the Mickey Mouse logo to begin with.

Re: Gemini Omni

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Post by dyauspitr »

suttontom wrote: post #131
dyauspitr wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone that has at least somewhat been following the space knows that this is not a bubble. Once we get to the point where these things can reliably come up with novel actions for physical robots, it’s game over. In fact, Unitree just released a video today where someone asks the robot to do something and it generates a new output action in real time. We’re very close.

They can't even reliably follow instructions from text. I think "it's just around the corner/just wait x months/just wait and see bro" is one of the most telling signs of AI psychosis.

Well, I’m gonna drop out of this because you don’t want to really accept that what we have is genuinely useful. I’ve seen it across multiple companies. It works very well on my team and that has made me a believer. I was skeptical and rightfully so for a very long time.

Re: Gemini Omni

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Post by AlecSchueler »

AgentMasterRace wrote: post #124
manas96 wrote: post #36

In my day job I program rigid body behaviour in real time amongst other simulations. I think rigid body contact is hard to learn as it is inherently discontinuous.. something you discover when trying to code a solver. As such I always use this prompt as a test: "A video of a jenga brick tower falling over as a brick is removed. The physics of each brick must be realistic." It gave me a video of where bricks suddenly…

I'm not sure why, especially because you're a developer... But damn, the amount of people that expect AI to just one shot stuff is hilarious. Half of the time I make a typo or something, should I be laughed out of the room?

They said the given example took 2-3 iterations. If you think it could be done in 4-5 etc maybe you could share your own result?

Re: Gemini Omni

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Post by Nition »

criddell wrote: post #63
r_lee wrote: post #44

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> and the reply was along the lines of "me because I like seeing thieves get what's coming to them". I really wish a subject matter expert would pitch in to tell us what this is about? like a totally made up thing that is fake, somehow gives a sense of justice and satisfaction? is it something about imagining it happening in reality, or what? for me, if I see that something is AI, it's like I just feel nothing. becau…

Do you ever feel a sense of satisfaction watching a movie? I'm thinking of scenarios like when the bad guy is finally defeated or the hero achieves their goal.

I think with a book or movie, a lot of the emotional reaction actually comes from the work of the human that created it. You can feel the emotion of the creator and the story they set out to tell and have some connection with them. You make a good point about how we've always been able to emotionally connect with fiction, but low effort AI does feel different.

Re: Gemini Omni

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Post by manas96 »

AgentMasterRace wrote: post #124
manas96 wrote: post #36

In my day job I program rigid body behaviour in real time amongst other simulations. I think rigid body contact is hard to learn as it is inherently discontinuous.. something you discover when trying to code a solver. As such I always use this prompt as a test: "A video of a jenga brick tower falling over as a brick is removed. The physics of each brick must be realistic." It gave me a video of where bricks suddenly…

I'm not sure why, especially because you're a developer... But damn, the amount of people that expect AI to just one shot stuff is hilarious. Half of the time I make a typo or something, should I be laughed out of the room?

I did prompt additional times insisting on realistic physics..

Re: Gemini Omni

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Post by Unai »

darkwater wrote: post #58
manas96 wrote: post #36

In my day job I program rigid body behaviour in real time amongst other simulations. I think rigid body contact is hard to learn as it is inherently discontinuous.. something you discover when trying to code a solver. As such I always use this prompt as a test: "A video of a jenga brick tower falling over as a brick is removed. The physics of each brick must be realistic." It gave me a video of where bricks suddenly…

I wonder what's the training data that makes it generate the final "explosion"...

Interestingly, the video on the announcement also starts with some papers and a toy car on a wooden table exploding like those jenga pieces.

Re: Gemini Omni

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Post by adampunk »

Nition wrote: post #135
criddell wrote: post #63

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Do you ever feel a sense of satisfaction watching a movie? I'm thinking of scenarios like when the bad guy is finally defeated or the hero achieves their goal.

I think with a book or movie, a lot of the emotional reaction actually comes from the work of the human that created it. You can feel the emotion of the creator and the story they set out to tell and have some connection with them. You make a good point about how we've always been able to emotionally connect with fiction, but low effort AI does feel different.

What causes the emotional reaction in a film is moving images in front of you in sync with sound. Further, even the simplest of movies is the product of more than one person with more than one emotional state. What causes the emotional reaction in a book is you reading and understanding what text is in front of you. The emotional reaction can happen in the radical absence of the author and in total contravention of their alleged will!

Re: Gemini Omni

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Post by okdood64 »

raincole wrote: post #39
mackeye wrote: post #19

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you would watch a movie generated with the sterility of an LLM?

I think Hollywood's obsession with unnecessary sex scenes[0] is the #1 reason I have been watching less and less movies. So yeah, probably. [0] e.g. Don't Look Up

> Don't Look Up

That was just a bad, mildy entertaining movie.

Re: Gemini Omni

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Post by entropicdrifter »

dyauspitr wrote: post #133
suttontom wrote: post #131

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They can't even reliably follow instructions from text. I think "it's just around the corner/just wait x months/just wait and see bro" is one of the most telling signs of AI psychosis.

Well, I’m gonna drop out of this because you don’t want to really accept that what we have is genuinely useful. I’ve seen it across multiple companies. It works very well on my team and that has made me a believer. I was skeptical and rightfully so for a very long time.

It can be a useful tool and an economic bubble at the same time. The dot com bubble was due at least in part to the overbuilding of fiber infrastructure in the US.
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