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Iran starts Bitcoin-backed ship insurance for Hormuz strait

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Much of the post-WW2 American-led world order was founded partially on the United States using its military to keep international waters open. It would be quite stunning Iran defeated the united states in this sense. The military might is there, but this administration clearly had no idea what they were getting themselves into and did not plan accordingly. (and does not have the will or public support to do so) The b…

there is only one man who is surprised and he is Orange and Extremely Ignorant

Re: Iran starts Bitcoin-backed ship insurance for Hormuz strait

#132

Much of the post-WW2 American-led world order was founded partially on the United States using its military to keep international waters open. It would be quite stunning Iran defeated the united states in this sense. The military might is there, but this administration clearly had no idea what they were getting themselves into and did not plan accordingly. (and does not have the will or public support to do so) The b…

Iran defeated the US the minute trump was sworn in.

In a sense, this is the defeat of the US by bin Laden - it's been a steady slide until the trump cliff since then.

Re: Iran starts Bitcoin-backed ship insurance for Hormuz strait

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post #106

Much of the post-WW2 American-led world order was founded partially on the United States using its military to keep international waters open. It would be quite stunning Iran defeated the united states in this sense. The military might is there, but this administration clearly had no idea what they were getting themselves into and did not plan accordingly. (and does not have the will or public support to do so) The b…

Seems like piracy is more about the land than the sea. I can't think of any major american military action against piracy aside from actions against somali terrorists. Seems piracy as it was known historically died out as the old historic pirate havens of say Tortuga or Outer Banks went from places of anarchy to places that were controlled by some government in some capacity. And that is exactly where we see the soma…

> somali terrorists

Pirates are many things, maybe even criminals under international law, but terrorists they are certainly not.

Re: Iran starts Bitcoin-backed ship insurance for Hormuz strait

#134

Much of the post-WW2 American-led world order was founded partially on the United States using its military to keep international waters open. It would be quite stunning Iran defeated the united states in this sense. The military might is there, but this administration clearly had no idea what they were getting themselves into and did not plan accordingly. (and does not have the will or public support to do so) The b…

I don't know enough about the current state of naval warfare but I've assumed this is related to the asymmetry that's emerged around protecting capital warships, especially in the scenario of a very narrow strait and a long enemy-controlled coastline. They can shoot relatively low-cost, short-range guided missiles from anywhere along the coast. Even if a warship stops the vast majority of them, only one has to get th…

The US military is also just less powerful than it was at its peak at the end of the Cold War as well.

Still the most powerful navy in the world, but spread increasingly thin (turns out "the whole world" is quite a big place).

This is no longer Reagan's (almost) 600 ship navy, and projecting power halfway round the world is no mean feat when your opponent can lob missiles and drones at you from their back garden

Re: Iran starts Bitcoin-backed ship insurance for Hormuz strait

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post #106

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Seems like piracy is more about the land than the sea. I can't think of any major american military action against piracy aside from actions against somali terrorists. Seems piracy as it was known historically died out as the old historic pirate havens of say Tortuga or Outer Banks went from places of anarchy to places that were controlled by some government in some capacity. And that is exactly where we see the soma…

I mean that is ignoring the American military experience with Islamic pirates and Islamic slavers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_corsairs

That also supports the government capacity argument. The US was able to make peace with the barbary states and extract a right of safe passage assurance from them. Why? Because the leadership of these states had enough government capacity to compel their domestic pirates into agreeing to the terms their government dictated. Today, in Somalia, we see what the lack of government capacity manifests as. I'm sure the government of Somalia does in fact have laws against piracy. The fact they aren't being enforced, and the pirate industry there exists, shows what happens when law and agreements meet the hard realities that there needs to be government capacity to see them enforced and heeded.

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post #106

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Seems like piracy is more about the land than the sea. I can't think of any major american military action against piracy aside from actions against somali terrorists. Seems piracy as it was known historically died out as the old historic pirate havens of say Tortuga or Outer Banks went from places of anarchy to places that were controlled by some government in some capacity. And that is exactly where we see the soma…

I mean that is ignoring the American military experience with Islamic pirates and Islamic slavers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_corsairs

Let us not confuse north africa with the horn of africa. Two wholly different people with different cultures, motivations, and practices.

Re: Iran starts Bitcoin-backed ship insurance for Hormuz strait

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Is the US or Israel asking for blockchain payments for access? "terror state". I would have hoped that HN users would be smarter than to parrot FOX news propaganda.

Terror state, for them doesn't include genocidal colonialist invaders like Israel. These descriptions are from objective scholars including Jewish ones btw.

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Re: Iran starts Bitcoin-backed ship insurance for Hormuz strait

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post #106

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Seems like piracy is more about the land than the sea. I can't think of any major american military action against piracy aside from actions against somali terrorists. Seems piracy as it was known historically died out as the old historic pirate havens of say Tortuga or Outer Banks went from places of anarchy to places that were controlled by some government in some capacity. And that is exactly where we see the soma…

> somali terrorists Pirates are many things, maybe even criminals under international law, but terrorists they are certainly not.

Are they not commingled with Al Shabaab, Daesh, and the Houthis?

Re: Iran starts Bitcoin-backed ship insurance for Hormuz strait

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> somali terrorists Pirates are many things, maybe even criminals under international law, but terrorists they are certainly not.

Are they not commingled with Al Shabaab, Daesh, and the Houthis?

Sir do you just think all muslims are the same people? What else ties these groups together?

Re: Iran starts Bitcoin-backed ship insurance for Hormuz strait

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The original ship channel was in Omani waters, not Iranian. It is entirely unreasonable to consider it reasonable for Iran to mine Omani waters.

It is reasonable for Iran to do things that hurt the US (and the world) when the US hurts them.

> It is reasonable for Iran to do things that hurt the US

Yes

> (and the world)

No

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