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The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

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Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

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Post by Keeblo »

flanbiscuit wrote: post #105
kn100 wrote: post #48

Good post. I switched from Bitwarden to KeepassXC / KeepassDX / Syncthing across my Android phone, Linux PC, and Windows PC. This was the setup I had prior to using Bitwarden for the first time. The Keepass experience is significantly better these days! Importing from Bitwarden is trivial too. Recommended!

I was using this but when I switched to iOS I switched to Bitwarden. What are you using for Syncthing on Android? There used to be an official Syncthing app for Android but then they stopped maintaining it. There was a popular fork but then that person stopped as well. I looked into using Syncthing on iOS but there was only Möbius Sync and it didn’t run in the background. This is was made me finally switch to Bitward…

I have had an excellent experience with Sushitrain/Synctrain on iOS [0]. It’s honestly the nicest Syncthing client I’ve used, although to be fair desktop-oriented clients have different design goals than mobile clientsm

[0] https://github.com/pixelspark/sushitrain

Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

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Post by dangus »

varbhat wrote: post #78

I have moved to KeepassXC[1] on my desktop from Bitwarden. On phone, I use KeepassDX[2] which is Android client compatible with KeepassXC. On browser, I use KeepassXC Browser extension which connects with the desktop client. Since KeepassXC operates on a single file, you can use any Filesystem syncing tool to sync that file between devices or to store it in the cloud. I am really happy with the move. [1]: https://kee…

KeePass is such a backwards step in usability and features that I don’t even consider it a competitor. The whole reason I moved to 1Password was to get away from how easy it was to accidentally lose data with the KeePass clients.

For example, one client I used had a temporary bug that just lost the notes field entirely. It was quickly fixed but it still affected me.

I’m currently using 1Password, which I still think is the best product overall as I’ve tried just about all the rest. For this product category I’m happy to pay the highest price to get the best product.

Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

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Post by mixologic »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #109
0x262d wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm getting really tired of the enshittification cycle. Learning about android verification and captcha changes recently has been another big frustration point. I moved to android as a more open alternative to apple just a few years ago, and to bitwarden from lastpass around the same time. I would like to just have these infrastructural services work well and quietly without thinking about them for many years. Do I r…

Bitwarden hasn’t “enshittified” anything. It’s all entirely speculative

yet. The hallmarks of enshittification are there. We've all been through the cycle of "this product is too good to be true, and provides considerably more value than it costs" "Customer Acquisition/Market Capture" phase. And we know what has to come next. They have to make the product profitable, because you cant just burn up VC money forever.

Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

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Post by gverrilla »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #113
yoyohello13 wrote: post #98

What a shame. I've been a paying Bitwarden customer since 2018. I really don't have time to move off yet, but I'll need to keep an eye out for where to jump. It sucks that this seems to just be the logical conclusion of all great projects.

Literally nothing has been taken away from BW yet, it’s all just speculative for now

Yes, speculative, for sure. In the same way if I hold a rock in my hand and let it go, it's speculative that it will fall to the ground.

Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

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Post by jnovek »

j16sdiz wrote: post #66
welder wrote: post #27

I don't care about raising prices, I'm worried about the new CEO having a PE mindset. That means Bitwarden will now focus on extracting value while the product stagnates and degrades in quality. Time to jump ship before their security and quality goes down the drain.

+1 I am a paid subscriber. I am kind of ok with the price increase. The "coincident" with change of CEO and remove of "always free" tag worries me though.

I just sent them a message along these lines.

I’m happy to pay for good services, but M&A means cost-cutting measures to make the company look good for acquisition and that makes me uncomfortable with letting them store secure data for me.

Switching is going to be a pain.

Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

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Post by jnovek »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #109
0x262d wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm getting really tired of the enshittification cycle. Learning about android verification and captcha changes recently has been another big frustration point. I moved to android as a more open alternative to apple just a few years ago, and to bitwarden from lastpass around the same time. I would like to just have these infrastructural services work well and quietly without thinking about them for many years. Do I r…

Bitwarden hasn’t “enshittified” anything. It’s all entirely speculative

I don’t wait for companies to enshittify anymore. When they start making decisions that look like they’re heading in that direction, I start looking for alternatives.

Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

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Post by tskj »

cwoolfe wrote: post #120

The Bitwarden chrome extension just randomly stopped working for me the other day. This is after years of working flawlessly. I had to remove the extension and add it back to get it working...What a shame. Hosting a password manager isn't a game; these are people's real lives and businesses at stake.

I've had similar issues, it's ridiculous!

Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

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Post by paulrudy »

megamike wrote: post #2

what are some bitwarden alternatives?

I've been keeping my eye on AliasVault[1]. Open-source, self-hostable or pay for cloud hosting, handles both email aliases and passwords.

I'll probably switch for password management once it has a proper security audit, and for email aliases once (if) they implement IMAP/SMTP or similar so reading emails isn't restricted to in-app.

[1]: https://www.aliasvault.net/

Re: The quiet renovation at Bitwarden

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Post by pocksuppet »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #92
welder wrote: post #27

I don't care about raising prices, I'm worried about the new CEO having a PE mindset. That means Bitwarden will now focus on extracting value while the product stagnates and degrades in quality. Time to jump ship before their security and quality goes down the drain.

Not my project but Vaultwarden is an open source (in Rust) alternative backend for Bitwarden. I believe its been around a while, and is still maintained. https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden

Is there an alternative frontend as well, or are you still locked in?
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