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Re: Accelerando (2005)

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Post by daynthelife »

SonnyTark wrote: post #19

Accelerando has prophecies that are coming true and it's scary. Spoiler warning in case you want to read it. The first part's main character basically has the future version of openclaw running in his glasses that let him dispatch agents to do any tasks/research he wants or to autonomously do things for him. -> we are already kinda here He's got such total dependency on his agents that when he loses his glasses he's…

It always bothers me when people suggest that AI could be the "great filter" in the sense of Fermi's paradox. Yes, AI may well wipe out biological life, but all evidence suggests AI will have a much easier time with space travel compared to biological life, and it will emit much louder signals unless it is intentionally staying silent.

Re: Accelerando (2005)

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Post by socalgal2 »

SonnyTark wrote: post #19

Accelerando has prophecies that are coming true and it's scary. Spoiler warning in case you want to read it. The first part's main character basically has the future version of openclaw running in his glasses that let him dispatch agents to do any tasks/research he wants or to autonomously do things for him. -> we are already kinda here He's got such total dependency on his agents that when he loses his glasses he's…

> He's got such total dependency on his agents that when he loses his glasses he's basically no longer functional,

Is this new? I don't think I could function without everything that was available in the 1950. I live because I have access to electricity, super markets, running water, working sewage, etc.. Take them away and I would not be able to fend for myself, especially in any major city. Put me in a forest I don't know how to build shelter, what things I can eat, how to catch stuff, make tools, etc...

Re: Accelerando (2005)

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Post by chatmasta »

SonnyTark wrote: post #19

Accelerando has prophecies that are coming true and it's scary. Spoiler warning in case you want to read it. The first part's main character basically has the future version of openclaw running in his glasses that let him dispatch agents to do any tasks/research he wants or to autonomously do things for him. -> we are already kinda here He's got such total dependency on his agents that when he loses his glasses he's…

Even just the opening paragraph is describing notification fatigue. Way ahead of its time.

Re: Accelerando (2005)

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Post by chatmasta »

cstross wrote: post #110
utilityhotbar wrote: post #20

This was written in 2005(!) -> > Manfred drains his beer glass, sets it down, stands up, and begins to walk along the main road, phone glued to the side of his head. He wraps his throat mike around the cheap black plastic casing, pipes the input to a simple listener process. "Are you saying you taught yourself the language just so you could talk to me?" > "Da, was easy: Spawn billion-node neural network, and download…

This was written in 2005(!) -> No, I wrote that in 1998. It was published as the novelette "Lobsters" in Asimov's SF Magazine in 2002, made the Hugo and Nebula shortlists in 2003 (it didn't win), and later became the opening of the novel published in 2005. I emphasized: the direction things were going in was obvious in the late 90s . And don't *ever* let anyone tell you that Accelerando is techno-optimistic or pro-AI…

Have you changed any of your opinions or outlook since then as you’ve seen these things come true? Or just solidified them?

Re: Accelerando (2005)

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Post by chatmasta »

adamgordonbell wrote: post #48
_alternator_ wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was a genetically modified space lobster talking to Mangred, right? I haven't verified but I've been assuming that the lobster mascot for OpenClaw was a reference to Accelerando.

I think its more a fun coincidence. OpenClaw was OpenClaude was it not, but had to change name. When I'm dictating to Claude Code, whisper often outputs 'cloud code' or 'clawed code' for my 'Claude Code.' So I ahd assumed he just took a homonym.

It was ClawdBot first.

Re: Accelerando (2005)

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Post by Muromec »

mullingitover wrote: post #86
btreecat wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/anthropic-expands-c... FTA >WASHINGTON, May 12 (Reuters) - Artificial intelligence company Anthropic on Tuesday released an expanded suite of features for lawyers using its Claude AI assistant, including tools for specialized legal topics and access within Claude to other legal research and AI products.

I stand by my prediction that when AI comes for the lawyers' jobs, that's when suddenly we'll have the Butlerian Jihad.

You can't exactly start the jihad being a lawyer.

Re: Accelerando (2005)

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Post by Muromec »

exe34 wrote: post #96
dist-epoch wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Even after humanity itself is gone, all that's left is FAANG-like corporations competing for profit for eternity. An example of why those who say "if everybody is jobless, who will buy all the products?" are just showing a lack of imagination.

The "products" are only produced because those who have money want those things. When 10 trillionaires own everything, then whatever they want made is what corporations will make.

I doubt the above non mentioned 10 people think of that as a bad thing unfortunately

Re: Accelerando (2005)

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Post by Muromec »

cstross wrote: post #110
utilityhotbar wrote: post #20

This was written in 2005(!) -> > Manfred drains his beer glass, sets it down, stands up, and begins to walk along the main road, phone glued to the side of his head. He wraps his throat mike around the cheap black plastic casing, pipes the input to a simple listener process. "Are you saying you taught yourself the language just so you could talk to me?" > "Da, was easy: Spawn billion-node neural network, and download…

This was written in 2005(!) -> No, I wrote that in 1998. It was published as the novelette "Lobsters" in Asimov's SF Magazine in 2002, made the Hugo and Nebula shortlists in 2003 (it didn't win), and later became the opening of the novel published in 2005. I emphasized: the direction things were going in was obvious in the late 90s . And don't *ever* let anyone tell you that Accelerando is techno-optimistic or pro-AI…

Thanks for the whole Laundry files series by the way. I now recommended it as an onboarding guide for any big company. Hope your eysight gets better.

Re: Accelerando (2005)

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Post by Muromec »

jaggederest wrote: post #41
_alternator_ wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was a genetically modified space lobster talking to Mangred, right? I haven't verified but I've been assuming that the lobster mascot for OpenClaw was a reference to Accelerando.

Not an actual meatspace genetically modified space lobster, it was a neural network based on genetically modified lobsters uploaded to spacecraft that had achieved sentience and autonomy after it hacked its self-modification prevention code. If OpenClaw was an Accelerando reference that's an incredibly deep cut and super cool imo

Unlikely, as none of the AI hype has any shade of being cool.

Re: Accelerando (2005)

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Post by jaggederest »

Muromec wrote: post #139
jaggederest wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not an actual meatspace genetically modified space lobster, it was a neural network based on genetically modified lobsters uploaded to spacecraft that had achieved sentience and autonomy after it hacked its self-modification prevention code. If OpenClaw was an Accelerando reference that's an incredibly deep cut and super cool imo

Unlikely, as none of the AI hype has any shade of being cool.

That's true, perhaps that's the aphorism here: "Never attribute to coolness that which could be attributed to being slop"
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