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Re: Hindenburg’s Smoking Room

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Post by Brian_K_White »

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #97
canpan wrote: post #89

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These places still exist, but you need to look for them. Here in Japan, some remote islands, you can travel overnight boat. I love those. There might be a speed boat or plane, but I love boarding the boat in the evening, everyone feels like having a party, sleeping in a bed and arriving fresh in the morning. (If you are in Tokyo, the nearest is Oshima Island). There is also slow rail travel, with pretty trains, sleep…

You’d love Canada and the US. Nothing but slow travel on trains.

No one takes the train in the US because they don't go anywhere you need to go and aren't nice to be on.

Re: Hindenburg’s Smoking Room

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Post by c22 »

CaptainBanger wrote: post #99
doginasuit wrote: post #72

This story reminds me of the game Oxygen Not Included. > The smoking room was kept at a higher pressure than the rest of the ship so that no leaking hydrogen could enter the room I haven't yet played any other game where air pressure in a room relative to the rooms surrounding it could mean the difference between life and death. Without really meaning to I gained an intuitive understanding of physics by just trying n…

You might enjoy Hardspace: Shipbreaker. I assure you pressure differentials will be life or death!

Fyi, you appear to be shadowbanned and it's not clear why. You might consider sending an email to admin to work that out?

Re: Hindenburg’s Smoking Room

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Post by DaedalusII »

slopinthebag wrote: post #101
sublinear wrote: post #27

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There are now vaping bans that have pushed people to pouches. The pouches are a totally different level of nicotine addiction. People will fall asleep with one in.

The pouches are great, a clean way to get Nic with very few adverse health problems as a result.

absolutely not true

they erode your gums

and the accelerated rate of nicotine absorbtion probably has side effects we do not yet understand

Re: Hindenburg’s Smoking Room

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Post by DaedalusII »

WalterBright wrote: post #123
TacticalCoder wrote: post #96

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> It’s really amazing just what extent people went to in order to smoke. My parents' generation, the boomers, weren't really aware that smoking was bad. Even if some knew, I feel like it was mostly hidden from them. Look at any movie they'd watch in the west when they were young, people would be smoking everywhere: inside offices, inside cars, public servants at the town hall, etc. Smokers everywhere. Once the studie…

> My parents' generation, the boomers, weren't really aware that smoking was bad. As a boomer, I say "baloney". For starters, my dad grew up in the Depression. His schoolmates called them "coffin nails". Doctors routinely prescribed "stop smoking, you fool". In 7th grade, one of my teachers (incidentally, a Holocaust survivor), smoked constantly. He'd also spend half of class time coughing up a lung. My best friend i…

it also did not seem to impact lifespan for them

dying in your 60s was par for the course until second half of the 20th century.

lead petrol, cigs, war, asbestos, lead paint in children bedroom

Re: Hindenburg’s Smoking Room

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Post by WalterBright »

DaedalusII wrote: post #134
WalterBright wrote: post #123

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> My parents' generation, the boomers, weren't really aware that smoking was bad. As a boomer, I say "baloney". For starters, my dad grew up in the Depression. His schoolmates called them "coffin nails". Doctors routinely prescribed "stop smoking, you fool". In 7th grade, one of my teachers (incidentally, a Holocaust survivor), smoked constantly. He'd also spend half of class time coughing up a lung. My best friend i…

it also did not seem to impact lifespan for them dying in your 60s was par for the course until second half of the 20th century. lead petrol, cigs, war, asbestos, lead paint in children bedroom

The boomers quit smoking decades ago.

I grew up mostly in a rural town, unwittingly away from lead gasoline fumes.

Re: Hindenburg’s Smoking Room

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Post by fsckboy »

elteto wrote: post #105
-warren wrote: post #33

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Story time. Last summer I flew from ATL to SFO on a brand new Airbus. Pretty cool plane! Halfway across the count I had the obligatory restroom break. In the head, I noticed an ashtray. I was confused -- "smoking has been banned in planes doe decades. Why is there an ashtray here?" I flagged down a flight attendant and asked them. Their answer was that yes smoking is banned, and it's a $250 fine. But EVERY SINGLE TRI…

The ashtrays are there, even today, because it is suspected that this flight [0] went down when someone disposed a cigarette butt in the lavatory trash, causing a fire. A reminder that aviation regulations are written in blood. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varig_Flight_820

tldr for the wikipedia article:

this plane did not crash, it made an emergency landing 2 miles from the airport in an onion field. Only 10 crew and 1 passenger survived. The other 123 souls aboard died of smoke/CO inhalation from the fire.

the sole surviving passenger, 21-year-old Ricardo Trajano, disobeyed the instructions to remain in his seat.

Re: Hindenburg’s Smoking Room

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Post by defrost »

DaedalusII wrote: post #134
WalterBright wrote: post #123

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> My parents' generation, the boomers, weren't really aware that smoking was bad. As a boomer, I say "baloney". For starters, my dad grew up in the Depression. His schoolmates called them "coffin nails". Doctors routinely prescribed "stop smoking, you fool". In 7th grade, one of my teachers (incidentally, a Holocaust survivor), smoked constantly. He'd also spend half of class time coughing up a lung. My best friend i…

it also did not seem to impact lifespan for them dying in your 60s was par for the course until second half of the 20th century. lead petrol, cigs, war, asbestos, lead paint in children bedroom

In the first half of the 20th Century war was the leading cause of a great many men and some women dying in their 20s and 30s .. and to a lesser degree at later ages (if in occupied territories, etc).

Dying young drags "life expectancy" figures (especially those calculated "from birth") but doesn't necessarily impact the likelihood of dying (say) "within the next 5 years" if you're already (say) 55.

Eg. Many people that survived war in the early 20th Cent still managed to live to a ripe old age past their 60s.

Re: Hindenburg’s Smoking Room

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Post by protocolture »

charcircuit wrote: post #67
mschuster91 wrote: post #3

> The real danger of allowing smoking on a hydrogen airship — and the reason it was strictly confined to the closely monitored smoking room — was the risk of a fire; I'd say... contrary, allowing smoking in a dedicated controlled place was the safer option. The real danger was not allowing smoking because if you ban smoking, people will smoke no matter if it's banned - and back then, there were a looooot more smokers…

Make it illegal. No rational person would through their life away just to smoke.

What if an irrational person was aboard.

Re: Hindenburg’s Smoking Room

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Post by nradov »

slopinthebag wrote: post #101
sublinear wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are now vaping bans that have pushed people to pouches. The pouches are a totally different level of nicotine addiction. People will fall asleep with one in.

The pouches are great, a clean way to get Nic with very few adverse health problems as a result.

Nicotine has both positive and negative effects but the impact on hypertension can cause pretty serious adverse health problems for some heavy users.

Re: Hindenburg’s Smoking Room

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Post by WalterBright »

WalterBright wrote: post #123
TacticalCoder wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It’s really amazing just what extent people went to in order to smoke. My parents' generation, the boomers, weren't really aware that smoking was bad. Even if some knew, I feel like it was mostly hidden from them. Look at any movie they'd watch in the west when they were young, people would be smoking everywhere: inside offices, inside cars, public servants at the town hall, etc. Smokers everywhere. Once the studie…

> My parents' generation, the boomers, weren't really aware that smoking was bad. As a boomer, I say "baloney". For starters, my dad grew up in the Depression. His schoolmates called them "coffin nails". Doctors routinely prescribed "stop smoking, you fool". In 7th grade, one of my teachers (incidentally, a Holocaust survivor), smoked constantly. He'd also spend half of class time coughing up a lung. My best friend i…

Kids today may think they're smarter than boomers because they don't smoke. But instead they smoke marijuana. There's nothing smart about that.
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