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Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker

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Post by onemoresoop »

Nasrudith wrote: post #37
HerbManic wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I find funny (only not really) is the wildly different interpretations of this film people have, for many they seem to be primed by other things to see in it what they want. Basically skeptical of common forms in modernity, that is very clearly the intention. However, I have also seen that in extreme far-right communities this film represents how Jewish people control the world... somehow I don't think that is w…

Meanwhile I've personally found myself completely unable to take it seriously due to the subliminal messages being "marry and reproduce" and "consume". Like people need sinister brainwashing to fall in love, have sex, or engage in hedonistic consumption. These are base biological urges that have existed regardless of societal economy for millennia! By casting it as something from a sinister conspiracy it makes the cr…

> Meanwhile I've personally found myself completely unable to take it seriously due to the subliminal messages being "marry and reproduce" and "consume". Like people need sinister brainwashing to fall in love, have sex, or engage in hedonistic consumption.

I thought the billboards and other displays were not subliminal but only viewed by the aliens and the sunglasses could see through that.

Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

pjc50 wrote: post #78
JuniperMesos wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like The Big Lebowski, it has some fun lines, but John Goodman's Walter Sobchak doesn't have a monopoly on the English phrase "Say what you will about X". And indeed apparently the line was in fact "say what you want about the tenets of national socialism", not "say what you will about the tenets of national socialism" ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_29yvYpf4w ).

The second half of the line was also relevant, since the claim of Jews controlling the world was specifically a Nazi one.

That actually traces back further to, appositley, the White Russians and their Protocols of Zion to smear democracy as a Jewish plot.

From there it spread to Henry Ford, Winston Churchill and Adolf Hitler amongst others.

Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker

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Post by feoren »

throw0101c wrote: post #107
cwillu wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They absolutely conform; by what mechanism do you think they all happened to pick the same bundle of labels and beliefs?

> They absolutely conform; by what mechanism do you think they all happened to pick the same bundle of labels and beliefs? Are you conforming/obeying when you believe the Earth is round? That the sky is blue? Perhaps a bunch of people picking "the same bundle of labels and beliefs" is… simply them recognizing/accepting reality?

> Are you conforming/obeying when you believe the Earth is round? That the sky is blue?

No, I am incorporating multiple different lines of evidence from multiple sources, including my eyes, into a framework of knowledge that I am constantly challenging and questioning, and "the Earth is round" and "the sky is blue" have survived those challenges as good first approximations to the truth. Whereas "Jews control the world" has extremely flimsy evidence, strong counter-evidence, doesn't fit with my understanding of the world, and can be traced as a myth/meme to known bad-faith actors. Which, by the way, is all also true for "vaccines cause autism" and "the earth is flat".

Not everything is the same.

Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker

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Post by projektfu »

Nasrudith wrote: post #37
HerbManic wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I find funny (only not really) is the wildly different interpretations of this film people have, for many they seem to be primed by other things to see in it what they want. Basically skeptical of common forms in modernity, that is very clearly the intention. However, I have also seen that in extreme far-right communities this film represents how Jewish people control the world... somehow I don't think that is w…

Meanwhile I've personally found myself completely unable to take it seriously due to the subliminal messages being "marry and reproduce" and "consume". Like people need sinister brainwashing to fall in love, have sex, or engage in hedonistic consumption. These are base biological urges that have existed regardless of societal economy for millennia! By casting it as something from a sinister conspiracy it makes the cr…

To be fair it was a mediocre film, definitely not one of Carpenters best, and is memorable mainly for the visual imagery of the billboards.

But don't mind me, I'm here to chew bubblegum and comment, and I'm all out of bubblegum.

Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker

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Post by dnpls »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #137

Misread the title to mean that They Live inspired the concept of adblocking in general. Which would have been an interesting coincidence, since it did inspire one of the early Mozilla logos. [0] [0] https://www.jwz.org/blog/2016/10/they-live-and-the-secret-hi...

Did something nefarious happen to your link?
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