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Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by throwatdem12311 »

dawnerd wrote: post #121
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #58

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Anything that goes to production should have a 4-6+ eyes rule, at least one reviewer that can review the changes in isolation. If tools or LLMs can help them with it then that's fine, but it should always be at least two humans involved, one making changes, one verifying, and if something like this happens, they're both culpable. Not that they should be blamed for it per se, but the process and their way of working s…

I cringe whenever someone suggests to just have an agent review because “it knows code better”. An ai agent wouldn’t catch a lot of things a human would flag. And before someone goes you just need to prompt it better, that’s a huge amount of work for large projects and you’re still essentially begging it to do what you want.

I have not encountered anything more soulcrushing in my entire career than having to spend hours going over LLM generated slop that was vomitted out by a contractor in Pakistan that doesn’t give a shit, to only have the review itself be fed in as a re-prompt, and get the same 2000 line ball of spaghetti back with even more issues and going back and forth until I just give up and approve it.

No, AI code review doesn’t help. Claude can’t even give me correct line numbers 80% of the time, literally just makes them up, and more than half of it is false positive BS anyway.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by lostlogin »

Lord-Jobo wrote: post #31
piker wrote: post #12

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I'm suspicious of that take from Mark Gurman. That's a lot of detail around pricing and "holding Apple over a barrel" as relates to the Siri deal that seems like a nice PR spin from Anthropic. Anthropic probably couldn't give the uptime guarantees that Google can, right?

Gueman might be the only leaker in tech who, so far, doesn’t seem to fuck around. Low miss rate, rarely exaggerates. Of course that could change and he could always get insider info that is wrong.

A recent big miss of his was Cooks retirement.

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2025/12/01/gurman-pooh-poo...

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by fantasizr »

dyauspitr wrote: post #128
fusslo wrote: post #5

to be honest, for some reason I expected most of apple to eschew claude/ai coding. I'm not sure why. It just doesn't feel very Apple-like

Why? It’s 1000x faster than most developers and can handle pretty hard problems.

we'll see if the tradeoff for speed is quality soon enough.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by alfiedotwtf »

simgt wrote: post #76
acdha wrote: post #34

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Who’s doing it better? I have yet to hear from a Google or Amazon user who has a transformatively better experience, and I think that’s why they haven’t jumped so far because they have hundreds of millions of users who have daily habits that they don’t want to lightly disturb.

> I think that’s why they haven’t jumped so far because they have hundreds of millions of users who have daily habits that they don’t want to lightly disturb. I don't think that's part of their decision making, Liquid Glass moved most things around for seemingly not much else than novelty and that's not the first time.

When a company doesn’t have anything to innovate on, or hires a new marketing exec, the first thing they do is change the company logo.

Liquid Glass was Apple’s logo change moment

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by ryandrake »

tracerbulletx wrote: post #125
fusslo wrote: post #5

to be honest, for some reason I expected most of apple to eschew claude/ai coding. I'm not sure why. It just doesn't feel very Apple-like

Some people are living in a different universe. Every single tech company I know is pivoting their entire company to AI based software development. Its in the performance evals, the wallet is fully open to use tokens to experiment, every practice and every process is open for re-evaluation. Its all gas no breaks everywhere. The conversation on the internet does not seem to realize this? Or is in denial.

I think OP's comment comes from the "Think Different" mysticism that used to be around Apple. You'd think that if there was one company on the planet not embracing slop, it would be Apple, and the realization that it's not the case can be a bummer.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by corpoposter »

tracerbulletx wrote: post #125
fusslo wrote: post #5

to be honest, for some reason I expected most of apple to eschew claude/ai coding. I'm not sure why. It just doesn't feel very Apple-like

Some people are living in a different universe. Every single tech company I know is pivoting their entire company to AI based software development. Its in the performance evals, the wallet is fully open to use tokens to experiment, every practice and every process is open for re-evaluation. Its all gas no breaks everywhere. The conversation on the internet does not seem to realize this? Or is in denial.

I can’t tell if “all gas no breaks” was intentional or not, but “no breaks” does seem to be a part of the culture shift within big tech around AI.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by alfiedotwtf »

wenc wrote: post #44
acdha wrote: post #34

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Who’s doing it better? I have yet to hear from a Google or Amazon user who has a transformatively better experience, and I think that’s why they haven’t jumped so far because they have hundreds of millions of users who have daily habits that they don’t want to lightly disturb.

Right now Alexa+ and Gemini are objectively better. The best is ChatGPT voice mode. It understands non English words and accents amazingly well, and even though the LLM model isn’t the full fledged one, I can have deep conversations with it for an hour without it missing a beat.

This! I talk to ChatGPT every morning, and will listen and navigate my feeds while I drive, summarises posts, answer my questions. It just works.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by dylan604 »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #101
rustyhancock wrote: post #11

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Apple seems to purposefully have decided to sit out the arms race. Probably smart time to rent and not buy if they plan on buying in a downturn.

Not participating in the war is the only true way to win the war, nothing new. And in this particular war, it's even worse, the "winner" will actually just be the "biggest loser", contrarily to a traditional war.

It seems to be Blu-ray vs HD-DVD again. Luckily for me, I made the right decision and got out of the shiny round disc business as that battle was raging all around me having been in the DVD programming business for 8 years or so. This battle of LLMs is interesting to watch from the sidelines as I have nothing to do with them. Not sure this will end with one LLM to rule them all while the others fade away. People can use the one they prefer and not really impact others.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by wat10000 »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #73
wenc wrote: post #44

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Right now Alexa+ and Gemini are objectively better. The best is ChatGPT voice mode. It understands non English words and accents amazingly well, and even though the LLM model isn’t the full fledged one, I can have deep conversations with it for an hour without it missing a beat.

"objectively better" is a subjective statement :) My preference, however, is for a voice-control UX just like I get with my Amazon Echo and "classic" Alexa like I have been for the past 10 years I've been using it: I think I can best describe it as a "voice-driven command-line" just like your OS' CLI shell, which makes its interactions predictable, even if it means I need to "know" what commands are valid in a given…

"Objectively" has become a generic intensifier. It's literally infuriating.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by [deleted] »

Hendrikto wrote: post #102
coldpie wrote: post #70

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It's trending in that direction. If you want genuine conversation with humans, it's best to start looking for small, private communities that have and enforce LLM policies that align with your desires. Public social media is universally trash, don't waste your time there. I think HN is still worth visiting for now, but it's getting harder to justify spending time here with the quantity of garbage-quality LLM articles…

> HN is still worth visiting, but it's getting harder to justify spending time here I feel the same. Quality of both submissions and discussions have considerable decreased. It is still the best general purpose “aggregator” I know of, but it is not what it was. It is becoming more and more FotM hype and boring group-think. HN was great due to the breadth of unique, interesting, nerdy topics, most of which I would hav…

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