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Grok 4.3

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Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by Oarch »

artdigital wrote: post #17

Grok is my favorite model for chatting, and my favorite voice mode. It seems to be the only voice mode that isn't routing to a extremely cheap model (like Haiku), and has been the highest quality out of all the frontier ones. When you subscribe to SuperGrok you can also create a "council" of agents, each with their own system prompt and when you ask something, they will all get asked in parallel to come to a conclusi…

I'd agree on the voice transcription; it seems so much more accurate than the other frontier models I've used. I often speak to Grok and paste the transcribed output to Claude!

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by 2ndorderthought »

afpx wrote: post #125
2ndorderthought wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah yes the psychosis reinforcement vertical. It's such a lucrative market for those schizophrenics and bipolars. Great way to get lots of engagement. Groks portfolio is so diverse

Except that it pointed at original sources, like reference manuals, archival documents, published newspaper articles, magazine articles, etc. - a lot still available on archive.org. Good try with your 16 day old account. And, why would anyone trust NPR at this point? Get real, bud. Most people with any curiousity know all about the ADL, JStreet, AIPAC, Greater Israel, Mossad / CIA, Chabad networks, Epstein, drones, w…

"We have improved @Grok significantly," Elon Musk wrote on X last Friday about his platform's integrated artificial intelligence chatbot. "You should notice a difference when you ask Grok questions."

Indeed, the update did not go unnoticed. By Tuesday, Grok was calling itself "MechaHitler."...

https://www.npr.org/2025/07/09/nx-s1-5462609/grok-elon-musk-...

Grok is definitely a reliable source of truthful sane rational information.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by Hfuffzehn »

tornikeo wrote: post #30

So, we have: - claude for corps and gov - codex for devs - grok for what, roleplay, racism? Those are the two things I've ever heard grok associated with around me.

From what I can gather Grok is not used for roleplay much. It is considered to inconsistant and crazy.

People are mostly using GLM and Deepseek via API and Gemma4 and Mistral finetunes locally.

It seems to me like the roleplay market is comparatively old and mature and users have developed cost consciousness and like models to follow their workflow/preferences. So something like Opus is liked for its smartness but considered too expensive and opinionated.

Might be an interesting data point for how the other markets might develop in the future.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by 2ndorderthought »

arvid-lind wrote: post #129
afpx wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that it pointed at original sources, like reference manuals, archival documents, published newspaper articles, magazine articles, etc. - a lot still available on archive.org. Good try with your 16 day old account. And, why would anyone trust NPR at this point? Get real, bud. Most people with any curiousity know all about the ADL, JStreet, AIPAC, Greater Israel, Mossad / CIA, Chabad networks, Epstein, drones, w…

Commenter was referencing a Bill Hicks joke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXi-9kA4ERM

Someone gets it!

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by aembleton »

tornikeo wrote: post #30

So, we have: - claude for corps and gov - codex for devs - grok for what, roleplay, racism? Those are the two things I've ever heard grok associated with around me.

I've tried Grok, Gemini and ChatGPT. There have been 2 times now where Gemini and ChatGPT confidently gave me an incorrect answer whereas Grok was correct. I'm now paying for Grok Lite or whatever it is $10 plan.

The first question was around setting up timers for a Fox ESS battery in Home Assistant and disconnecting Fox ESS from the cloud. The second was around cornering speed in Sunnypilot and Frogpilot.

Somewhat niche but if an AI is confidently telling you something wrong it's hard to work with.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by ajitid »

artdigital wrote: post #17

Grok is my favorite model for chatting, and my favorite voice mode. It seems to be the only voice mode that isn't routing to a extremely cheap model (like Haiku), and has been the highest quality out of all the frontier ones. When you subscribe to SuperGrok you can also create a "council" of agents, each with their own system prompt and when you ask something, they will all get asked in parallel to come to a conclusi…

If I sub to SuperGrok, would I be able to use it in Pi agent or in Opencode? This is not clear to me if I can. Do I get an API Key in SuperGrok?

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by nextaccountic »

manmal wrote: post #43
nextaccountic wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This puts Sonnet 4.6 above Opus 4.6 in the coding index.. kinda hard to trust those numbers. (Also it puts Opus 4.7 universally above Opus 4.6, and I may be wrong but this doesn't seem to match the experience of most/many/some people. I think it's widely recognized that Anthropic is severely lacking compute and Opus 4.7 is a costs saving measure)

Anthropic themselves have (had?) this thing where Opus is used for planning and Sonnet for coding.

I thought this was a costs saving measure: we plan with the frontier model / SOTA, then code with something cheaper.

But then, Anthropic employees don't have rate limits, right?

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