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This is a great example on why Elon is right. AI should be a tool that does the users bidding, and not a moral agent that nerfs itself to protect some arbitrary line it has.
Counterpoint: generated CSAM on his platform.
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> You honestly think “Anthropic employees are script kiddies with inflated egos that are high on their own supply” is a reasonable stance? Maybe not the script kiddies part, but "high on their own supply" is certainly not unreasonable.
I don’t understand the hostility and insulting tones being reasonable now. The comment is not at all just saying “their usage of their own AI is causing these issues”, it’s just a lot of hostility, I don’t see the value of these kind of insults.
Using Claude as a malware detector is incredibly wasteful.
I am still baffled by the fact that we have collectively agreed to use agentic harnesses by the same companies that are selling access to their APIs. I mean, I am sure they don't mean it but they have the incentive to burn as much tokens as they are allowed to get away with. Also for better or worse I imagine the Anthropic engineers use Claude Code on some sort of Unlimited plan that practically makes no sense for re…
They also have incentive to nerf models occasionally, so they rarely one shot the task and more often they do it wrong and then you have to spend on tokens to correct it. Bonus points if model suddenly goes completely dumb then you have to start the session over.
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It's proof that Anthropic is high on their own supply. I've heard them described as data science script kiddies with inflated egos and it seems spot-on.
What a joke. If "Anthropic is just a bunch of script kiddies" then everyone is, considering dozens of billions pored into beating their models yet they're still the go-to for coding and have been for quite a while now. Just a nonsensical thing to say.
The US is doing everything to make it so hard for other countries to compete. And yet, with everything stacked against all these other companies, and with way way less money and way less fancy researchers they get beat over and over again. Usually by companies who AI isn't even their main product.
Actually Alibaba dethroned sonnet with a model that's like 1/100th the size and can run on commodity hardware this month too. So they do look kind of silly...
Definitely not script kiddies, but the way the researchers get managed makes them look goofy and sloppy and not interested in benefitting the consumer.
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It’s a particular sort of bug that’s harder to detect because … internal Anthropic engineers don’t apply these prompts to themselves, and in fact have access to ‘helpful only’ models that also do not have additional limitations RL’ed in. (Or perhaps they’re RL’ed out - not sure of current training mechanisms.) These ‘rules for thee and not for me’ are qualitatively created and implemented, and are thus extremely hard…
They must have some sort of smoke tests for common operations, run in a test harness with the system prompts they force on users, right? ....Right? What kind of Mickey mouse operation are they running over there?
That said, I was sympathetic to the recent bug reports —- to trigger one, you’d need to have a session that waited an hour doing nothing and then very specifically tested for in-context retrieval. I don’t want to run that test, do you want to run that test?
I think it's important for CC to also be able to make unit test code that might contain mild exploits, to test for security vulnerabilities.
The biggest complaint about vibe coding is that it's insecure. The funny part now is that if you DO try to secure it, you hit guardrails.
There is a contact form for Anthropic if you run into some of them on 4.6 at least.
> wastes user money and bricks managed agents This issue is representative of a larger problem. Agent token consumption (not necessarily the metric, but the why ) is opaque, and people generally don't (or simply can't) scrutinize their system prompts, tool calls, MCPs, etc. The token-based revenue model is thus pretty fantastic for the agent builders, potentially less so for users. I think people have been willing to…
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They’ve said themselves that Claude code is 100% vibe coded now. That certainly meets the criteria of “script kiddies” and “high on their own supply”. The negative connotations are there on purpose because of the bugs and issues that these products have, something which presumably they wouldn’t have if there was human oversight and acknowledgement that the AI isn’t infallible.
> They’ve said themselves that Claude code is 100% vibe coded now. That certainly meets the criteria of “script kiddies” That's not what script kiddies are at all. > The negative connotations are there on purpose because of the bugs and issues that these products have, something which presumably they wouldn’t have if there was human oversight and acknowledgement that the AI isn’t infallible. That's a big assumption,…
Sure it is. The new age of script kiddies: they don’t know how to do it for themselves, but they can run a script (or tell the AI to) to do it for them.
> That's a big assumption
We can only see the results, which are more and more bugs, problems, regressions, etc. That’s not normal behavior. Yes all we can do is speculate, we don’t know the real reasons for the issues, but it’s clear there are issues and they appear to be getting worse.