Why would you name yourself Warp without any connection to OS/2?
Warp is now open-source
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Re: Warp is now open-source
#132Was briefly surprised to see IBM open-sourcing OS/2 after all these years. Alas, this appears to be some AI widget.
What does this mean?
It's a reference to an old OS made by IBM which was nicknamed Warp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS/2
Re: Warp is now open-source
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
You didn't answer their question. Asking your own questions isn't an answer.
Why doesn't it answer the question? If you are a selfish individual that doesn't believe in giving back. there simply isn't much to discuss. These companies literally could not exist without the massive public dollars + support poured into them. Warp couldn't exist without the funds from public pensions being gambled with. Since these same companies have zero qualms in raping public resources, the government should s…
Every tech company could not exist without the internet, developed by the US government/universities and released for free. Should they all be nationalized? Are they all "raping public resources"?
Open-source developers have plenty of ways to make money from their work. You can even stipulate in your license that companies who use the code to make more than a certain amount of money pay a fee. If developers choose not to do that, that's fine, but it means nobody is obligated to pay them.
Imagine Warp donated $1000 to Alacritty. Would you be happy then? What about $10k, or $1 million? What would be the appropriate compensation? Sure, Warp wouldn't exist without Alacritty, but they also wouldn't exist without the ARPANET. At the same time, Alacritty's developers didn't raise $50 million in funding, pay developers to build Warp's features, or do any of the marketing. How do we know how to compensate them? Answer: we look at Alacritty's licensing terms, which explicitly permit free use of the software as long the license is included in all copies (which the Warp devs have complied with).
Re: Warp is now open-source
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
that's the correct read - we shared what we were building and they helped us integrate alacritty. it's similar to how mitchell h reached out and asked today if we wanted to integrate ghostty. we have a lot of open source library dependencies and are grateful to the folks who worked on them
I thought the negative sentiment being shared here was hyperbolic, but you look absolutely ridiculous in these comments. "Actually, we are sure people who were critical to our success are happy they received nothing in return for their labor." <- This is you. This is what you sound like.
I think a conversation about the ethics and morals of forked software hitting it big, and how/how much they should give back to their upstream, is a good one to have, if the tone wasn't so personal and aggressive.
Re: Warp is now open-source
#135Still feel extremely negative towards this company for tweaking an Alacritty fork then using that to get a $50million venture round then giving zero money towards Alacritty, an open source library that the founder completely owes their career too. Not shocked they partnered with another company that is fine with raping the commons for profit, OpenAI. They definitely did some git cleanup to remove this fact too going…
Seems silly to bash a company for using open source exactly in accordance with the license. If they expected to be compensated, they picked the wrong licensing terms.
Re: Warp is now open-source
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why wouldn't you throw them a few bucks? Especially if your multi-million dollar business is basically a vim clone entirely based on their source...
I would once profitable, but early stages where every dollar matters? I can see why they wouldnt just throw money left and right.
This isn't left and right, this is one direction: upstream, to the project that forms your very heart.
Re: Warp is now open-source
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
that's the correct read - we shared what we were building and they helped us integrate alacritty. it's similar to how mitchell h reached out and asked today if we wanted to integrate ghostty. we have a lot of open source library dependencies and are grateful to the folks who worked on them
I thought the negative sentiment being shared here was hyperbolic, but you look absolutely ridiculous in these comments. "Actually, we are sure people who were critical to our success are happy they received nothing in return for their labor." <- This is you. This is what you sound like.
> "Actually, we are sure people who were critical to our success are happy they received nothing in return for their labor." Have you ever contributed to open source?
Not everyone is doing it out of the expectation of a paycheck. For all the open source code I've worked on, my goal has unironically been for those using it to achieve whatever positive end they were trying to use my software for, and that's it.
The one time I did go further and agree to do some one-off changes for money it actually caused me a hassle that year as I had to account for it under the right tax treatment, I was nearly outside the "hobby" exception you can get.
Re: Warp is now open-source
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
The biggest scam that was ever pulled was convincing software developers that the GPL was somehow bad and out of vogue and that open source should prefer BSD, MIT, Apache, etc instead. And now we have entire threads like this of people crying because some company used someone's software exactly as the license allows . It's a shame, but there really is no sympathy for projects that choose the wrong license. Stallman k…
The biggest scam is GPL convincing people that the license will keep things open source. Every try contributing to Chrome's web engine? It started as GPL khtml, but good luck doing anything as google controls it. Meanwhile FreeBSD manages to get plenty of contributors. Don't get me wrong, license is important. However it doesn't have nearly the effect many people claim.
Without it, chrome would be closed source entirely.
Re: Warp is now open-source
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Not sustainable for normal people, let alone people I hope you are aware of the fact a business makes way more money than a "normal" person?
People are upset they raised 50 million, how many employees? How long does that keep their lights on? Maybe if they were raking in hundreds of millions I would be inclined to be outraged but if I make a startup tomorrow I cant just donate my VC bucks to every open source project I like until I have some real income coming in or my investors will want my head.
You once again drag things in a wildly hyperbolic direction. Nobody's talking about throwing money around wildly at unrelated projects. When there is a single project that sits at your very heart, without which your entire startup is a nonstarter, yes, donate.
Re: Warp is now open-source
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
The biggest scam that was ever pulled was convincing software developers that the GPL was somehow bad and out of vogue and that open source should prefer BSD, MIT, Apache, etc instead. And now we have entire threads like this of people crying because some company used someone's software exactly as the license allows . It's a shame, but there really is no sympathy for projects that choose the wrong license. Stallman k…
The biggest scam is GPL convincing people that the license will keep things open source. Every try contributing to Chrome's web engine? It started as GPL khtml, but good luck doing anything as google controls it. Meanwhile FreeBSD manages to get plenty of contributors. Don't get me wrong, license is important. However it doesn't have nearly the effect many people claim.
KHTML was LGPL, just as with the rest of the KDE libraries. Otherwise Apple wouldn't have been able to fork it in the first place.