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VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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Post by hedora »

MarsIronPI wrote: post #94
hedora wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But, free software lost it's way around GPLv3. From the end user's perspective, GPLv3 says that you can only use the software if it's either a cloud service, on hypothetical open firmware devices, or if you install it yourself. AGPLv3 partially solves the issue by blocking people like Google from using it to build proprietary cloud services that take away their users' freedom. (It still doesn't solve the problem wher…

> From the end user's perspective, GPLv3 says that you can only use the software if it's either a cloud service, on hypothetical open firmware devices, or if you install it yourself. What in the world do you mean?

The anti-tivo clause bans things like Apple pre-installing GPLv3 software on macs, but allows them to let you use exactly the same software as long as they do not give users access to the binary. AGPLv3 blocks both use cases, GPLv2 blocks neither.

On the spectrum of "things that take away user freedom", withholding the source code is bad. Withholding the source code, the binaries and physical access to the computer is obviously much worse! This latter business model is heavily subsidized by GPLv3.

Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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Post by engeljohnb »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #128
engeljohnb wrote: post #124

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The inventor of GIF didn't begin with a document* clearly laying out what is and isn't to be called a "GIF." I think it's right to push back whenever a huge tech corporation tries to build goodwill by falsely using terms like "open source." * https://opensource.org/osd

> inventor of GIF didn't begin with a document clearly laying out what is and isn't to be called a "GIF”* Neither did the inventors of AI. A third party published a document after corporations went with open weights = open source and a spoiler block in FOSS wanted all training data published. > it's right to push back whenever a huge tech corporation tries to build goodwill by falsely using terms like "open source I…

There's a big difference between correcting some random commenter on an internet forum and correcting Microsoft.

> think it’s counterproductive. Most people only see a squabble, which makes any ensuing points from the open-source community seem silly.

Only to people that truly don't care whether something's open source. In which case, Microsoft using the term (correctly or incorrectly) won't change their perception.

But the people who do care won't like to be mislead by Microsoft. There's a reason the term is right in the headline: people respond to it.

I wish I had time to come up with a better example, but it's like if a AAA game company says they've released "native Linux build," but really they're just packaging the Windows build with Wine.

99% of people won't care, neither about the news nor the deception. But for that last 1%, any goodwill garnered with the headline would be gone, and the game company are the ones who look foolish, not the people calling them out.

Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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Post by tombert »

steinvakt2 wrote: post #10

This is not a new model. Also, it hallucinates a lot. Also, it's very heavy and slow in inference. It's also bad in multilingual. Edit: I'm talking purely about speech to text (STT). Not sure about the other things this can do.

I'm shocked, shocked to find that Microsoft takes credit for a slow, unoriginal product that doesn't actually do what it advertises.

Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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Post by Capricorn2481 »

zuzululu wrote: post #130
steinvakt2 wrote: post #10

This is not a new model. Also, it hallucinates a lot. Also, it's very heavy and slow in inference. It's also bad in multilingual. Edit: I'm talking purely about speech to text (STT). Not sure about the other things this can do.

you saved us a lot of time here.... i unstarred the repo moving on....

I don't really pay attention to stars. Do people use them as bookmarks? Why would you star a repo if you knew so little about it?

Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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Post by terbo »

steinvakt2 wrote: post #10

This is not a new model. Also, it hallucinates a lot. Also, it's very heavy and slow in inference. It's also bad in multilingual. Edit: I'm talking purely about speech to text (STT). Not sure about the other things this can do.

It has some perks, is a bit more expressive in some cases, but overall is trained on really noisy data, uses more memory, and isn't that fast - I'm talking about the (7b?) version that they released then removed quickly (vibevoice-community on github) - I still use chatterbox turbo and sometimes qwen TTS.

Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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Post by pardon_me »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #81
pardon_me wrote: post #51

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How do you pronounce giraffe?

Same way I pronounce my first name btw ;) but I think of "gif" as "gift" and this is probably the subconscious association people make without realizing it.

I do too. The idea that any one pronunciation is more correct based on the letters is quite amusing, given there's examples that work all ways.
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