I'm so happy that companies are ditching the big tech. Not enough fast enough imo.
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That's funny coming from an American.
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Dutch central bank ditches AWS and chooses Lidl for European Cloud
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Re: Dutch central bank ditches AWS and chooses Lidl for European Cloud
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They are warmongers. Their tone currently is war. They are investing in war. They are becoming a war nation again.
Again, they haven't started a war in 80 years. It sure seems like a more peaceful bet than the US, which started one like a month ago.
The US is also disappearing people without due process by agents without uniform hiding their faces and using unmarked vehicles.
This guy is really tone deaf when he tries to paint current Germany as worse than the US right now
Re: Dutch central bank ditches AWS and chooses Lidl for European Cloud
#133Crazy that a discount grocer can trade blows with big american cloud compute.
the parent company (Schwarz Group) has over half a million employees and makes something like 200 billion in revenue per year, I think calling it a discount grocer is underselling it a bit lol.
It's their main business
Re: Dutch central bank ditches AWS and chooses Lidl for European Cloud
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You'd be wrong to laugh at them, because different cars of the same general size can indeed vary 50% or more in fuel efficiency. It's fair to be skeptical of promises of huge savings, and question why your counterparty would benefit from giving you those savings, but sometimes there's a good reason.
Name one example of a 2026 car with the same size, fuel type and class where the difference in mileage is >=50% I have a very hard time believing this, especially with fuel economy and emission regulations
The 2026 Toyota Corolla GR has 22mpg combined, and the normal 2026 Corolla has 35mpg with gas or 50mpg with a hybrid powertrain.
It is true that fuel economy regulations make it much less practical to deliver gas guzzlers out of pure laziness. (As you may know, the Corolla GR is by far the most expensive of these options, because it's designed to achieve horsepower over mileage.)
Re: Dutch central bank ditches AWS and chooses Lidl for European Cloud
#135Years ago I was making the case that instead of digging ourselves into the Amazon eco-system with S3 storage, EC2 instances, DynamoDB and various other Amazon specific cloud products... we should just host virtual machines and have everything in there using open source products. People looked at me like they saw water burning but that would have made the dependency on the US a lot easier to sever. Just move the VM's.
I am running my startup out of a self build GPU server from our office with a backup to the cloud. I only pay for the IP address as electricity is included in the rent. If the startup fails, Ill have thousand other potential use case for it and in the worst case, it will make for a awesome gaming machine. The machine is a beast and I can serve a lot of users with it. In fact, and quite funnily, I already serve much m…
How does your startup setup applies to a bank?
Re: Dutch central bank ditches AWS and chooses Lidl for European Cloud
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> The machine is a beast and I can serve a lot of users with it. In fact, and quite funnily, I already serve much more users with it than a lot of my older clients do with their software running on expensive k8s setup because „scale“ :-) Honestly even if you have a single server, running k8s (or maybe Docker Compose for really simple cases) on it is still the simplest way to manage it (assuming you have more than 1 s…
This depends on what you know. Kubernetes is really not that good for me
I don’t disagree. What you know matters, but I think it’s a lot easier to learn Kubernetes than it is to learn all of the disparate tools that you need to know to cobble together something similar. Moreover, because Kubernetes is somewhat standardized, you are much more likely to be able to find quality sources on the Internet (or LLLMs, nowadays) and similarly you’re much more likely to be able to find personnel who are familiar with it compared to some bespoke alternative.
It’s also worth noting that Kubernetes is conceptually quite simple—once you realize that it’s just a database of resources that are being watched by controllers, things start to click into place and it feels much simpler.
In some sense Kubernetes is a bit like democracy or capitalism—it’s the worst in its class except for everything else that has been tried. :)
Re: Dutch central bank ditches AWS and chooses Lidl for European Cloud
#137Years ago I was making the case that instead of digging ourselves into the Amazon eco-system with S3 storage, EC2 instances, DynamoDB and various other Amazon specific cloud products... we should just host virtual machines and have everything in there using open source products. People looked at me like they saw water burning but that would have made the dependency on the US a lot easier to sever. Just move the VM's.
I prefer not using managed services but I kind of understand the appeal. Instead of paying several engineers, that you have to vet first, to configure and maintain the services adjacent to your product you can just pay AWS or Azure or someone else to maintain the service. Then you can concentrate your whole manpower on your product. In case the service goes down you can blame someone else and maybe even recover some…
Yep, been in a job like this. Use AWS because the team is three people and they don't want to waste time on patching, database administration, networking etc. I agree you pay more but in that team we were just able to get on with building the products.
Re: Dutch central bank ditches AWS and chooses Lidl for European Cloud
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s3 is kinda hard to replace if you actually use it; the rest is manageable with varying levels of pain
SQS is particularly hard, there are other options, but it has less direct competitors than S3
Agreed - I use AWS at work and try and keep the services we use to a minimum. S3 and DynamoDB are ones that somewhat lock us in but the way we use them, they are replaceable (not relying on any niche features). The different queue services would definitely be harder to swap out though.
Re: Dutch central bank ditches AWS and chooses Lidl for European Cloud
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What you’re describing is outsourcing. It’s still possible with on-prem or cloud VMs. You just hire a contractor provide those services.
You are correct but I don't know about the cost structure. Also you have to somehow verify that they do a good job. You sometimes only see bad work when something goes wrong. Also you have to first find a company that provides the service. The cloud makes it simple. They offer you managed service X. They hire experts for service x and you pay a part of the cost on top of your infra cost. No searching. No vetting. You…
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Re: Dutch central bank ditches AWS and chooses Lidl for European Cloud
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This depends on what you know. Kubernetes is really not that good for me
I don’t disagree. What you know matters, but I think it’s a lot easier to learn Kubernetes than it is to learn all of the disparate tools that you need to know to cobble together something similar. Moreover, because Kubernetes is somewhat standardized, you are much more likely to be able to find quality sources on the Internet (or LLLMs, nowadays) and similarly you’re much more likely to be able to find personnel who…
Capitalism winning does not show it is better as there are a lot more factors.
Same situation with Kubernetes. Google could have built something else and they still would have succeeded at doing what they did.
In my opinion, everything you wrote are opinions. Installing and managing rke on bare metal was more difficult than doing the same with nomad for me.
Or another example, installing clickhouse using apt was easier and worked better than doing it with docker.
In the end we can do what we can do because we learnt the tool and the problem. And the tool is sufficient.
Argument about the quality of the tool is too difficult unless we know all discussed tools in-depth