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Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

#131

Post by glitchc »

MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #40
eddieroger wrote: post #9

It is so easy to sit on and critique from the sidelines. Steve Jobs had a passion for product, and it showed - he pushed the teams to make things he approved of, and that was the measure. Tim Cook had a passion for growth, and as the article states, Apple's income now rival some GDPs. They're different people with different drives. In fact, Jobs told Cook not to do what he would do, but do the right thing, and to Coo…

> Apple's income now rival some GDPs But so has the rest of FAANG. Did Tim Cook really overperform? Growth compared to 2011: Apple ~8× Microsoft ~13–14× Google ~10× Facebook* ~10–15×

Market valuation alone is not sufficient, percentage of market-share matters too. Under Cook, iPhone market-share grew from 15-18% to 25% in US and an insignificant amount to ~20% globally. As an example for why market-share matters, TSMC's market-share is ~$2T, while Apple's market cap is $3.93T (as of today). Yet TSMC has a market-share of close to 90% for ICs in circulation today.

I'm not a fanboy by any means, just looking at the numbers.

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

#132

Post by rawoke083600 »

kwertyoowiyop wrote: post #50
danabramov wrote: post #5

"But here's the thing" Is it really so hard to write your articles by yourself? The blandest tone imaginable, all the usual LLM tells in the sentence structure. You are polluting HN and the broader internet by posting this publicly.

“Here’s the thing” is also a longtime cliche in podcasts, from the before-times when ChatGPT didn’t yet exist.

Or "It turns out..." Somehow it just bugs me, and I'm usually so laidback

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

#133

Post by sgt »

drcongo wrote: post #68
sgt wrote: post #2

> Your AirPods just connected to the wrong device. Again. > iMessage is taking twenty minutes to sync a message between your laptop and your phone sitting six inches apart. HomeKit forgot the kitchen lightbulb exists, and will remember it again in three hours like nothing happened. I've literally seen nothing of this happen (or to my family all on Apple devices). While I don't doubt they do happen to some unfortunate…

AirPods and iMessage, agreed, never had a problem. The Home app though remains Apple's unloved ginger stepchild - every major OS release I'm hopeful that they've done something about it, but they never do. I'm starting to think Apple's internal view of Home / HomeKit is that they wish they'd never built it in the first place.

I hope they do. I use only the basics of HomeKit, a couple switches and CCTV. I'd like to expand and use it for more stuff. So it's important Home is stable.

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

#134

Post by mandeepj »

AstroBen wrote: post #89
eddieroger wrote: post #9

It is so easy to sit on and critique from the sidelines. Steve Jobs had a passion for product, and it showed - he pushed the teams to make things he approved of, and that was the measure. Tim Cook had a passion for growth, and as the article states, Apple's income now rival some GDPs. They're different people with different drives. In fact, Jobs told Cook not to do what he would do, but do the right thing, and to Coo…

So much of Apple's growth is anti-consumer. You can't repair your device. They're intently focused on locking you in as much as possible, making it hard to leave, and not by making such a good product. They try their best to force app developers to pay them their 30% tax, even when the devs brought the customers in from elsewhere. They, for so long, refused to support RCS and downgraded the messaging experience with…

> developers to pay them their 30% tax

There are provisions for 15%

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

#135

Post by kneel »

You think this company would have gone bankrupt by now

2012 — [Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3227949)

2013 — [Frustrated with iCloud, Apple's developer community speaks up](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5454491)

2014 — [Is Apple experiencing a problematic decline in software quality?](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8461546)

2015 — [Apple has lost the functional high ground](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8836734)

2016 — [Apple's declining software quality](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11034071)

2017 — [Apple's had a shockingly bad week of software problems](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15831914)

2018 — [Ask HN: Why has Apple's software quality steadily gone downhill?](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16312664)

2019 — [Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21330678)

2020 — [Is macOS Becoming Unmaintainable?](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24324639)

2021 — [Apple's software quality has certainly slipped](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29229881)

2022 — [The erosion of the Mac experience](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32497193)

2023 — [Mac OS Ventura Issues](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34199652)

2024 — [Ask HN: Has Apple lost its way?](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39530215)

2025 — [Apple's Software Quality Crisis](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43243075)

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

#136

Post by maldev »

zeratax wrote: post #8
sgt wrote: post #2

> Your AirPods just connected to the wrong device. Again. > iMessage is taking twenty minutes to sync a message between your laptop and your phone sitting six inches apart. HomeKit forgot the kitchen lightbulb exists, and will remember it again in three hours like nothing happened. I've literally seen nothing of this happen (or to my family all on Apple devices). While I don't doubt they do happen to some unfortunate…

Every time I do report these kinds of bugs it's clear to me they clearly do not look at them lol. The Feedback site still thinks windows 10 is the latest windows version and doesn't even display the latest ios version.

I reported a bug in Apple Music on windows where it wouldn't update the audio output until you restarted it. They did a change in a few weeks where they made it update the audio output. Probably team dependent, but I was really amazed by how quick they changed it.

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

#137

Post by rawoke083600 »

throw1234567891 wrote: post #29
danabramov wrote: post #5

"But here's the thing" Is it really so hard to write your articles by yourself? The blandest tone imaginable, all the usual LLM tells in the sentence structure. You are polluting HN and the broader internet by posting this publicly.

This moaning is so fucking boring. Yeah, so what. For what we know this moan can be just some random openclaw instance digging for karma. I come here for discussion, not to read 50% “AI slop” comments.

Agreed ! So what

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

#138

Post by two_cents »

namdnay wrote: post #47
MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple's income now rival some GDPs But so has the rest of FAANG. Did Tim Cook really overperform? Growth compared to 2011: Apple ~8× Microsoft ~13–14× Google ~10× Facebook* ~10–15×

the very fact that we're comparing apple, a (mainly) hardware company, to a bunch of software companies is in itself a measure of incredible success for Apple.

Microsoft is hardware company too. Surface, Xbox, computer peripherals, etc.

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

#139

Post by SanjayMehta »

AstroBen wrote: post #89
eddieroger wrote: post #9

It is so easy to sit on and critique from the sidelines. Steve Jobs had a passion for product, and it showed - he pushed the teams to make things he approved of, and that was the measure. Tim Cook had a passion for growth, and as the article states, Apple's income now rival some GDPs. They're different people with different drives. In fact, Jobs told Cook not to do what he would do, but do the right thing, and to Coo…

So much of Apple's growth is anti-consumer. You can't repair your device. They're intently focused on locking you in as much as possible, making it hard to leave, and not by making such a good product. They try their best to force app developers to pay them their 30% tax, even when the devs brought the customers in from elsewhere. They, for so long, refused to support RCS and downgraded the messaging experience with…

Cook made sure that the iPhone's battery replacement cost was so high that an upgrade would be more viable. His innovation was to extend that to MacBooks.

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

#140

Post by SanjayMehta »

rib3ye wrote: post #112
MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple's income now rival some GDPs But so has the rest of FAANG. Did Tim Cook really overperform? Growth compared to 2011: Apple ~8× Microsoft ~13–14× Google ~10× Facebook* ~10–15×

You’re comparing Apple to Facebook is especially gross.

On so many levels.
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