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Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by Latty »

eknkc wrote: post #116
jeroenhd wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brave being led by an absolute asshole does indeed make it less palatable as a main browser to me. It's on the list, right after the crypto stuff and the full page ads on the new tab screen that are enabled by default. It's still the best Chromelike that's easily available, but I'm not switching my default any time soon.

I mean he also invented the fucking JavaScript. At that rate one needs to abolish all modern technology and go tribal. Cause I’m certain my toothbrush runs JavaScript.

There is an obvious difference between someone who is still actively involved in running something and working on it, profiting from it's success in the market, and using something someone invented but is no longer leading development of or profiting from.

It's normal and reasonable to discover someone who makes bad decisions is running something and decide that makes using it a higher risk for you. Sometimes you don't have a choice, but sometimes you do.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by topranks »

stavros wrote: post #110
lxgr wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course everything based on Chromium will inherit most of Chrome's decisions, including this one. (Unless they fork their entire web extension implementation and maintain the fork forever.)

Yeah but then "only Chrome" is misleading, when it's actually "every major browser except Firefox".

Every major browser except Firefox is Chrome

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by raudette »

pogue wrote: post #16
OsrsNeedsf2P wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The day Firefox drops MV2 is the day I find a new browser. We're already at <1% usershare, it's not like there's safety in numbers here

I'd be genuinely curious what you could switch to that still has MV2 because, AFAIK, Firefox is the last holdout. Brave still allows you to install uBlock & some other extensions that should technically not be supported under MV3, but they still ship it with support for those. Just heard about Helium browser, which is just dechromium + uBlock and it's still beta.

Safari still supports MV2

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by elros »

I stopped paying attention when the major browsers started to act somewhat against the interests of ad-blocking add-ons, some years ago.

Would anyone who has kept up let me know what would be the 2026 "industry standard" in terms of an ad-blocking and privacy stack?

I primarily use Chrome on Mac and Safari on iPhone but I'm willing to change browsers for better ad-blocking and privacy.

I would also be interested in solutions that scale beyond a single machine, for when I'm at home (e.g. should I get a little box and use it as an ad blocker between my internet my router and my network or something?)

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by michaelt »

lxgr wrote: post #84
OsrsNeedsf2P wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The day Firefox drops MV2 is the day I find a new browser. We're already at <1% usershare, it's not like there's safety in numbers here

What exactly is your gripe with MV3? Many people seem to treat it synonymously with "no more procedural request blocking", but that's not a thing Mozilla ever did: > For Manifest V3 extensions, Chrome no longer supports the "webRequestBlocking" permission (except for policy-installed extensions). Instead, the "webRequest" and "webRequestAuthProvider" permissions enable you to supply credentials asynchronously. Firefo…

> What exactly is your gripe with MV3?

Running an adblocker is the defining feature of the extensions API. ublock origin has 5x as many users as the second-most-popular extension [1]

Supporting ublock isn't just a nice-to-have add-on feature for an extension API, it's literally the only thing most users care about.

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/search/?promoted=re...

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by zarzavat »

stavros wrote: post #110
lxgr wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course everything based on Chromium will inherit most of Chrome's decisions, including this one. (Unless they fork their entire web extension implementation and maintain the fork forever.)

Yeah but then "only Chrome" is misleading, when it's actually "every major browser except Firefox".

Brave still supports UBo though. How long they can maintain that support is an open question.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by stavros »

zarzavat wrote: post #136
stavros wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but then "only Chrome" is misleading, when it's actually "every major browser except Firefox".

Brave still supports UBo though. How long they can maintain that support is an open question.

Non-Chrome Chromium browsers should band together and support request blocking for Mv3 at this point. It would be one compelling feature that differentiates them from Chrome.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by PufPufPuf »

Steve6 wrote: post #9

I migrated from Firefox to Brave years ago, and it's been incredible. It's easy to turn off the crypto stuff and turn on more advanced privacy protection. Then it's just a fast browser with awesome adblocking. My favorite recent feature has been Brave Scriptlets, which are just little javascript functions you can run on specific sites. I've replaced most of the add ons I used with small scripts. Pretty nice. I would…

So like... Google Chrome with adblocker and Tampermonkey bundled? Just need to disable the cryptocurrency stuff? You don't really make it sound good.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by heresie-dabord »

evilpie wrote: post #79

> The Firefox team is experimenting with ways to improve the built-in Enhanced Tracking Protection feature in Firefox. This is one of the libraries we're going to experiment with. > - We are not, and have no plans to abandon MV2 extensions. This will ensure certain types of add-ons, like ad-blockers, continue to work best in Firefox. > - Firefox supports several ad-blockers as add-ons on Desktop and Android, includin…

From TFA:

> The browser now ships adblock-rust, Brave's open source Rust-based ad and tracker blocking engine.

It makes sense that Mozilla would test this. The amount of Rust code in Firefox is already at 12%.

https://4e6.github.io/firefox-lang-stats/

Memory-safe code can make a huge difference in trust and software risk. Google has said that a 70% of Chrome vulnerabilities are related to memory (un)safety. This is in the browser with dominant marketshare.

https://www.chromium.org/Home/chromium-security/memory-safet...

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Post by wallst07 »

nananana9 wrote: post #91
Steve6 wrote: post #9

I migrated from Firefox to Brave years ago, and it's been incredible. It's easy to turn off the crypto stuff and turn on more advanced privacy protection. Then it's just a fast browser with awesome adblocking. My favorite recent feature has been Brave Scriptlets, which are just little javascript functions you can run on specific sites. I've replaced most of the add ons I used with small scripts. Pretty nice. I would…

"The first thing you have to do is to turn off the cryptocurrency stuff." Fantastic first impression. I'm good, thanks.

There is a single toggle to turn this off, if it makes people rage so much for something you get for free (I realize not free beer/freedom) then I don't know what else to say.

To be clear, the toggle is to turn off the 'wallet' feature that isn't even enabled until you use it. So you are just disabling seeing the thing at all... with a simple toggle.

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