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I've tried and couldn't make it sound like Angine de Poitrine, it completely ignores the microtones. Sounds more like Polyphia. It does look like AdP is the answer to AI.... or we haven't trained the models with sufficient microtones, likely due to western music influence.
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Three albums not enough to train AI on? - Vol I (AdP) - Vol II (AdP) - Flying Microtonal Banana (KGatLW) I just wanted to write this comment because it will be almost impenetrable to anyone who doesn't already know.
Bunch of Balkan and Turkish music has quarter tones too. (And you’re forgetting KG and LW…)
Now I'm only replying because I'll take any opportunity to prop King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard, which is the third item of the original three dot points.
KG = KG and LW = KGatLW = King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard.
I don't like all of KGatLW's music but, as someone who is also a big fan of Frank Zappa's extensive corpus of works, I love their versatility and their willingness to be versatile.
One of my favourite performances of KG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI_XU1iKRRc (I can't believe this is from ten years ago!)
I've tried and couldn't make it sound like Angine de Poitrine, it completely ignores the microtones. Sounds more like Polyphia. It does look like AdP is the answer to AI.... or we haven't trained the models with sufficient microtones, likely due to western music influence.
Thank you for bringing Angine de Poitrine tonmy attention, this is awesome music and performance!
When I first watched the AdP KEXP performance, it felt like my musical knowledge up to that point was just preparing me for AdP. I've been through micro-tonal (King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard, specially their Flying Microtonal Banana album), polyrhythms and time changes (Tool, The Mars Volta, Metallica's St. Anger album, various other bits and pieces), looping (Party Dozen -ish-, Adam Page[0][1][2], various Math Rock bands, primarily Battles), and other general "out-there-ness" (Arthur Brown[3], Frank Zappa, Mr. Bungle[4]).
[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95h3M6BG2QM
[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr1ykpNPOSg (17 years ago, holy shit)
[2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er--olP_8wQ
[3]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXYgLPBfF_w
[4]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4YvvhKW7bA
The Adam Page stuff is all, essentially, stream of consciousness, unique to the individual performance. He had a monthly residency at a pub in the city a long while back, and I reckon I went to see him ten times over the course of a year and each performance was unique. I think they're all recorded on Bandcamp somewhere, hey, yes, here: https://adampage.bandcamp.com/music. I even named one of his songs: "Preventing a future disaster" (from September 2014, although it's misspelled). I find part of the enjoyment of looping music is in the performance itself, the combination of conducting and choreography.
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Upon hearing mashed up pop music with almost coherent lyrics, "Shall I compare thee to a sunset?" What is going on here? Have you not heard music before? Is Suno your first experience with music-shaped sounds? Because, buddy, this is wild. You're not getting Rumours out of an AI. You're not getting Time (The Revelator) out of AI. London Calling does not spring from the geometry of sound.
Maybe I'm just not as emotional as you. Could definitely be the case. Even before AI music I never cared much about lyrics. Nor artist names beyond finding similar music to a song I like. I listen to music for the sound, which does elicit emotion and feelings that are more enjoyable or less depending on my mood, but I don't care about the story being told. I still don't think you're saying anything that refutes the g…
To name one, "Saving All My Love For You" should never be played at a wedding because the song is about having an affair with a married guy with kids. But no one listens to the Lyrics. They just hear the chorus. It's a hit for other reasons, not because of lyrics.
Similarly, few people listen to the lyrics of ""Rainy Day Women #12 & 35" (everybody must get stoned). It is not about drugs.
Heck, famously there's Bush Jr. (or more likely some PR person) using "Born in the USA" as a pro-American song. It's not a pro-America song at all. I wouldn't call it anti-American but it's definitely a song entirely about problems in America. Not praise.
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Would you be willing to share some artists? I'm curious
not OP but i also listen to a large % of AI music as my main now various genres: https://suno.com/s/Oc5842XzzuBTk4Ma https://suno.com/s/RdmFOKpbi4zyVbRf https://suno.com/s/J4Z8t8jU9JXVJ1DB https://suno.com/s/OhfzCYkmcZhFf1Pk https://suno.com/s/VYHHLW7Hkw2uHjrb https://suno.com/s/cTu7AkoOdAyi0eWz https://suno.com/s/QvOExImOVzo1b2Gl https://suno.com/s/MASINon9lGr9JPLS https://suno.com/s/ujpTfZwVdAKy9W0h https://suno.co…
I’m really not the kind to use this sort of language much at all (I’m agnostic), but AI-generated music is sacrilegious to me. Satanic. I didn’t love humans making soulless corporate muzak, but at least they were getting paid for it and it was mostly ignorable.
If the humans of the 2020s hadn't given up their souls long before this era of AI came out, we wouldn't be discussing this ad nauseam every single day for years on HN. There's no comparison. Humans are vastly superior at music.
People need to get a grip and get out there. I know a significant majority of people reading this are into enough hobbies to know at least one instrument well or can sing. They should just do it for fun and as loudly as possible everywhere they can get away with it. We used to celebrate that sort of thing as a necessary part of maintaining a civil and thoughtful world. Music is an activity before it is a product to be sold. AI is a recording technique built from lots of recordings.
One might have a silly counterargument like "what if there are microphones everywhere stealing my work?", but not enough people consider these days that the corporate world is absolutely terrified of trying to sell what is beautiful. It was considered too risky even when they believed in it with all their heart and were deliberately trying to. What makes the most money is the average, not the exceptional. There's no good excuse people put up against pursuing music other than neurotic irrationalities that come from being chronically online.
(edited for pronouns - overuse of "you")
I’m really not the kind to use this sort of language much at all (I’m agnostic), but AI-generated music is sacrilegious to me. Satanic. I didn’t love humans making soulless corporate muzak, but at least they were getting paid for it and it was mostly ignorable.
All music on major labels has been formulaic "corporate muzak" for a long time. If the humans of the 2020s hadn't given up their souls long before this era of AI came out, we wouldn't be discussing this ad nauseam every single day for years on HN. There's no comparison. Humans are vastly superior at music. People need to get a grip and get out there. I know a significant majority of people reading this are into enoug…
I’m certainly no fan of the economic structure of major labels (or any capitalist entity), but despite that they do sometimes still release some good stuff.