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The Rich and Powerful Want to Live Forever. What If They Could?

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The concept of “medically died” is kind of ridiculous. Are you alive? Then you weren’t dead.

It is a clinical term, you are arguing over semantics. Cardiopulmonary death to be specific. My point is: no one knows, not you, not me, and not my dog.

"Semantics" is literally "what words mean" so yea, arguing over semantics is pretty important! Not something to dismiss.

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At the moment it's not possible for anyone. If tech cracks it it would likely become affordable like most technology.

If we’re talking healthcare no, it doesn’t become affordable. None of the advanced medical tech is affordable.

You just define "advanced" as not "affordable" and your statement can be true forever!

Except of course, that's nonsense. mRNA vaccines are super advanced and available for a majority of humans. And tech drops in price if it's popular enough.

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To play devils advocate here: could it be a good thing? That way they would be incentivized to think about the long term actions of their actions, like not dying before getting affected by global warming etc. And once aging is understood and solved, maybe it’s possible to iterate on the approach and make it cheaper and more accessible. That would greatly help the aging populations of the west. If you’re around foreve…

I always find is weird how most super rich don't even seem to care about the life of their own children. If they did, surely they would invest more in basic science, or at least medical science.

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Living forever is a curse not blessing. They will grow older and even if their body is till young, their brain solidifies. World around them will become increasingly alien and they will yearn for good old isolating themselves into their own small bubble, terrified of the world around them, which moved forward so much that there is no place for them anymore. Their bubble will become skanzen and they will be talking and breathing alas very bitter artifact of a past times.

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If we’re talking healthcare no, it doesn’t become affordable. None of the advanced medical tech is affordable.

You just define "advanced" as not "affordable" and your statement can be true forever! Except of course, that's nonsense. mRNA vaccines are super advanced and available for a majority of humans. And tech drops in price if it's popular enough.

What about insulin?

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Generic has to do with categories, not quantity. But this was not a borderline call—it's the kind of comment the guidelines are trying to persuade, cajole, and/or coax you into not posting here! Not that you owe the rich and powerful better, necessarily, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it. > Why don’t you say anything to that person? Purely because I didn't see it. It's flagkilled now. We…

Fair enough. Thank you for your work, I know it can be quite demanding to deal with people like this all the time.

Thanks for the kind reply :)

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post #133
post #90

To play devils advocate here: could it be a good thing? That way they would be incentivized to think about the long term actions of their actions, like not dying before getting affected by global warming etc. And once aging is understood and solved, maybe it’s possible to iterate on the approach and make it cheaper and more accessible. That would greatly help the aging populations of the west. If you’re around foreve…

I always find is weird how most super rich don't even seem to care about the life of their own children. If they did, surely they would invest more in basic science, or at least medical science.

If you can only afford to have one or two children and accordingly have one or two children, you'll care about how well your children fare in life.

If you can have ten, your worry becomes more about how/if your children preserve your legacy.

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I always find is weird how most super rich don't even seem to care about the life of their own children. If they did, surely they would invest more in basic science, or at least medical science.

If you can only afford to have one or two children and accordingly have one or two children, you'll care about how well your children fare in life. If you can have ten, your worry becomes more about how/if your children preserve your legacy.

Most super rich don't have THAT many kids though.

Re: The Rich and Powerful Want to Live Forever. What If They Could?

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post #132

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You just define "advanced" as not "affordable" and your statement can be true forever! Except of course, that's nonsense. mRNA vaccines are super advanced and available for a majority of humans. And tech drops in price if it's popular enough.

What about insulin?

So a few things:

- Insulin isn't crazy expensive outside the broken US system

- Let's assume it was, or some other medical advance was, so what? A few examples of something only very slowly going down in price doesn't change the fact that a lot of things DO go down in price or just exists at all due to basic science being done.

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