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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

#131

When Cook took over, people expected him to fail. I don't think even Steve Jobs would've been able to imagine that Apple can get this big.

To be honest, a lot of industry analysts were skeptical of Jobs' second coming. And when he did a deal with Microsoft, most of them thought they were right in their initial pessimism.

Over the time I developed the instinct to not take pundit's opinions too seriously.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

#132

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Software people, in my very direct experience, are terrible at hardware... While in jest, I do think most software engineer's understanding of hardware abstractions is pretty poor and does disservice to the hardware they run on. I know between Moore's Law and Gate's Law which one I would prefer to be the industry standard... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_and_Bill%27s_law

Generally speaking, I think both are true. Most people seem to have an affinity for either hardware or software, but rarely for both. Those who do are extremely unique. I don't mean that as an insult to anyone, just as an observatin having worked in both (and personally am much better at software than hardware, even though I enjoy both).

I find both interesting but have been working in software for over a decade now.

Honestly, the thing that pushed me into software dev was the fact that hardware tools were absolutely garbage. Verilog felt like a joke of a language designed to torment rather than help the user.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

#133
At least John has an engineering background, been with company for couple decades and not some private equity/hedge fund/wannabe Steve Jobs visionary douchebag.

Personally, I have lost all interest in Apple and been slowly switching off their hw/sw/saas for some time.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

#134

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

Saying Apple Software is 'terrible' is a blatant hyperbole. Has it degraded meaningfully over the last decade in terms of stability? Yes. Has it's capability increased though? Yes. Has it become more secure by design? Yes. Is the UX better than anything else in market? By a country mile.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

#135

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I can name some terrible software, but it wouldn't be Apple's.

XCode, Apple Music, Siri, Apple Maps, The App Store, Finder, Safari, Spotlight, iCloud... I'd need another hand to fully count all the Apple apps that have burned me in the past.

It’s so sad. Circa 2003 OS X wasn’t just good it was amazing. Nearly Movie OS quality. Every release the quality goes down. Every migration to SwiftUI more and more AppKit standard feature get lost.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

#137

I know the rumors were swirling for the past few months, but just 4 more months of Cook seems like pretty short notice, no?

In 2021 the average time from announcement to new CEO for S&P 500 companies was 3.5 months, so this seems reasonably normal.

[0] https://www.spencerstuart.com/research-and-insight/2021-ceo-...

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Ternus recently gave an interview where he said this about the initial flop of Apple Maps: > “When we started out with maps, it was an ambitious undertaking. It was bumpy,” said Ternus. “But the team had just been over the years just pushing and pushing and pushing. And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. If you have the vision and you're persistent and you keep working at it, you can take something you know that…

Apple Maps is pretty fantastic

It’s okay. It’s still subpar and barely keeping pace with Gmaps

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

#139

Wow. Hopefully, Ternus will bring what he brought to Apple's hardware to their software. The hardware is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else, but their software gets worse and worse every generation. I'm glad to hear this.

Short-term, I'm just hoping this means the AirPods Max (and Vision Pro too, I guess) get a redesign that ditches all the uncomfortably heavy metal shells.

Granted I have a big ol' head, but I like the metal frame in all its heft - they feel ultra durable and I don't worry about throwing them in a bag.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

#140
Surprised that someone from Gen X is getting the opportunity to lead a company of this caliber. We've spent most of our adult lives getting smothered by Boomers and Millennials.

Thanks for making all that money, Tim. Now please retire. Please.

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