"The age check is the entry fee for owning a computer."
No, the fee is your identity and a record of your every thought and action.
US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification
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#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is literally just Meta. https://www.gadgetreview.com/reddit-user-uncovers-who-is-beh... https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1rshc1f/i_traced_2_b... https://tboteproject.com/
The investigation you linked to is entirely hallucinated by LLMs: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47659552 (tboteproject and the "Reddit researcher" are the same person). They also added this page since I posted that comment: https://web.archive.org/web/20260411112604/https://tboteproj... where they claim their website is "under surveillance" because it got a few thousand requests from Google Cloud et al, most o…
I typoed the second link and can't edit anymore. Correct one: https://web.archive.org/web/20260411112604/https://tboteproj...
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#133I'm glad I got to see the era where the internet was useful and exciting. I feel like every major change since about 2010 has pushed it more toward blandness and made it less useful.
This will be a big one. They're building the groundwork for a world-wide dystopia.
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#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
This bill requires actual verification and leaves it up to the politically controlled FTC to determine how this should happen. It’s a disaster. > The Parents Decide Act solves the self-reported-birthday problem by demanding something verifiable, which in practice means a government ID, a credit card, a biometric scan, or some combination. > However, Gottheimer has not specified which. The bill does not either. It’s u…
The article's analysis doesn't appear to be accurate. From the bill: (a) Requirements.—An operating system provider, with respect to any operating system of such provider, shall carry out the following: (1) Require any user of the operating system to provide the date of birth of the user in order to— (A) set up an account on the operating system; and (B) use the operating system. (2) If the relevant user of the opera…
Verification is explicitly required.
(d) Regulations.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Commission shall promulgate, under section 553 of title 5, United States Code, regulations to carry out this section, including regulations relating to the following:
(A) How an operating system provider can—
(i) verify the date of birth of a parent or legal guardian described in subsection (a)(2); and
(ii) carry out the requirements described in subsection (a) with respect to an operating system of such provider that may be shared by individuals of varying ages.
(B) Data protection standards related to how an operating system provider shall ensure a date of birth collected by the operating system provider from a user, or the parent or legal guardian of the user, to carry out this section and any regulation promulgated under this section—
(i) is collected in a secure manner to maintain the privacy of the user or the parent or legal guardian of the user; and
(ii) is not stolen or breached.
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Vendors shouldn't sell unlocked devices to kids. This part is neither necessary nor sufficient. Put aside the Orwellian premise of "devices are locked by default". People keep making the analogy to things like cigarettes, but if a kid wants a steady supply of cigarettes then they need a steady supplier. If they want an "unlocked device" they just need money and Craigslist, once. It doesn't matter what you make Walm…
Kids having $20-30 means you're fine with them being unsupervised? Computers and smartphones are incredibly cheap. In person, we expect stores won't sell cigarettes to kids. We should simply expect companies won't provide age restricted services to kids. The liability and requirements should be on those companies.
> In person, we expect stores won't sell cigarettes to kids. We should simply expect companies won't provide age restricted services to kids.
Stores won’t sell cigarettes to kids because doing that will probably get you arrested and shut down pretty quickly.
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I think you should just give your away children in servitude to neo-feudal overloards. You're halfway there. You clearly don't want to be a parent.
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#137Not a mandate at this point. The bill was only introduced on April 13th.
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#138It is just crazy how much of a tech billionaire centric the US government is, they can come up with Thanos' idea of wiping out 50% of the population and politicians would do it as long as Zuckerberg or anyone else in the techno bubble asked for it.
> they can come up with Thanos' idea of wiping out 50% of the population and politicians would do it as long as Zuckerberg or anyone else in the techno bubble asked for it.
Stay tuned. With mass unemployment/underemployment there’s gonna a be a lot of “extra” people.
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#139The breathless fearmongering over an age field on account set up is just completely over-the-top. This is probably the least bad out of all possible ways to implement age checking. The benefit of this is that it can short-circuit support for more onerous age verification. The writing has been on the wall for some time now: the era of completely unrestricted internet is coming to an end. The question is how awful will…
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#140> The term “operating system” means software that supports the basic functions of a computer, mobile device, or any other general purpose computing device. > The term “operating system provider” means a person that develops, licenses, or controls the operating system on a computer, mobile device, or any other general purpose computing device. So excited to see the GNU vs. Linux debate finally land in court.
This is horribly vague. >a computer, mobile device, or any other general purpose computing device. It leaves open to interpretation if it applies to all computers, or just general purpose ones. Does a car count as a mobile device?
And what about containers/VMs, or booting software bare metal?
Does my laptop have to pass my age verification to a Docker container?
Am I at risk of government censorship (or worse) if I create a hobby smart home app that boots bare metal on a Raspberry Pi?
Or even the shell apps that I run daily. Does curl (which can access any web url) have to validate my age? What about AI models/ollama?