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Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by asdfman123 »

sheept wrote: post #7
qweiopqweiop wrote: post #2

It genuinely disgusts me that the world's largest media company shoves addictive, short form content down users throats (especially young people). Anyone working on it at Google should be ashamed of what they're doing.

The social media companies got so large because they optimized for engagement over all else. If they were any less addictive, they'd have way fewer users, and we wouldn't be talking about them now. This can probably only be addressed with regulation

Yes, you can be the guy at a social media company who says "perhaps earning a few extra billion in revenue this way is bad for children," but the executives are just going to replace you.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by [deleted] »

jorvi wrote: post #95
Quarrelsome wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. It painfully overfits based on what I've watched. I've watched thousands of videos and it still doesn't understand me at all because it appears to treat every action as equal. As an example, I like watching the Starcraft II streamer uThermal but I'm not really interested in other Starcraft II content creators because uThermal scratches that itch. However YouTube will keep showing me Starcraft II content creat…

The worst is that if you're someone who enjoys multiple niche things and who also interacts with the algorithm (like - dislike - not interested) your account gets marked as content discovery vanguard and it will endlessly feed you videos with Even if you consistently "not interested", the algorithm never ever figures out the overlapping theme is that you (generally) don't like low view count low subscriber count cont…

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Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by bombcar »

Quarrelsome wrote: post #79
rambambram wrote: post #42

Youtube must know better than me what to recommend me out of all the videos... still, I get presented the same shite again and again. To be fair: not everything is shite and Youtube is my favorite social media (especially for discovering new music), but I noticed a big drop in quality videos from one day to the other a couple of years ago. Just opening up Youtube one day and seeing all kinds of thumbnails with people…

Agreed. It painfully overfits based on what I've watched. I've watched thousands of videos and it still doesn't understand me at all because it appears to treat every action as equal. As an example, I like watching the Starcraft II streamer uThermal but I'm not really interested in other Starcraft II content creators because uThermal scratches that itch. However YouTube will keep showing me Starcraft II content creat…

As a fellow uThermal enjoyer, I have to admit the algorithm knew enough to suggest him to me if I was watching battlecruiser cheese.

I just wish they'd recognize that the fifty-first time I don't watch a video they should find something else to show me.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by yason »

wffurr wrote: post #70
rambambram wrote: post #42

Youtube must know better than me what to recommend me out of all the videos... still, I get presented the same shite again and again. To be fair: not everything is shite and Youtube is my favorite social media (especially for discovering new music), but I noticed a big drop in quality videos from one day to the other a couple of years ago. Just opening up Youtube one day and seeing all kinds of thumbnails with people…

The YouTube home screen is a total wasteland. It's a disaster. It's a horrific attention suck that's done enormous damage to humanity's collective attention span. Recommendations are barely any better - sometimes they're loosely connected to the video you just watched, but other times it's just more weird addicting YouTube slop. At the same time, YouTube is an incredible resources; a civilizational achievement. It's…

> The YouTube home screen is a total wasteland. It's a disaster. It's a > horrific attention suck that's done enormous damage to humanity's > collective attention span. Recommendations are barely any better - > sometimes they're loosely connected to the video you just watched, > but other times it's just more weird addicting YouTube slop.

I rarely ever open anything else but https://www.youtube.com/feed/subscriptions

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by biggestfan »

Gander5739 wrote: post #102
Gagarin1917 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where is it being shoved down anyone’s throat? You literally have to intentionally click a short video or use the shorts tab to see any YouTube short.

They play on app startup on the android app, at least for me.

That happens if you close the app while on a Short. Otherwise it opens to the homepage.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by cchrist »

As a creator and founder, i've observed that having an established long-form video presence (on YT) is literally the greatest distribution channel. if someone's willing to sit through a 15-60 min video of yours, they're probably willing to at least check out whatever product/service you may be selling in your videos.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by Tarrton »

rambambram wrote: post #42

Youtube must know better than me what to recommend me out of all the videos... still, I get presented the same shite again and again. To be fair: not everything is shite and Youtube is my favorite social media (especially for discovering new music), but I noticed a big drop in quality videos from one day to the other a couple of years ago. Just opening up Youtube one day and seeing all kinds of thumbnails with people…

> If anybody knows some good DIY or woodworking channels, let me know!

Check out Peter Millard.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Post by giancarlostoro »

pwython wrote: post #107
charcircuit wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>hide old videos they cannot monetize All videos are monetized. Some videos don't do rev share with the author, but YouTube still gets the ad rev.

Big brands don't pay the big bucks to buy placements on run-of-network channels (ie. small random channels).

The videos in question are niche as heck, maybe 400 people would recognize them, if even, old 2000s forum parody song of other forum members, out of how many billions online? So yeah, ultra random channel from 2009.
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