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Re: Meta removes ads for social media addiction litigation

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Social Media, and specifically Facebook / Meta, will go down in history as one of the worst developments in technology in the 21st century. As Frances Haugen stated in her testimony, Mark Zuckberg needs to be removed from the helm at Meta.

They started out good and then cranked the engagement trap to the max when they realize value of a captive audience.

Re: Meta removes ads for social media addiction litigation

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The main problem with 230 is that the courts have decided to treat it as if it removes all legal liability from online platforms, rather than just publisher liability. The way the text was written seems to be intended to protect platform operators from publisher liability but still have them under distributor liability. For example, if you own a bookstore and carry a book that says something defamatory, you can be he…

>For example, if you own a bookstore and carry a book that says something defamatory, you can be held liable if you don't remove the book after being informed about its contents.

I don't think you can in the US. Maybe elsewhere, but in the US AFAIK the author is responsible for the content they publish, not the bookstores carrying the books.

>This means that if a platform knows it hosts illegal or defamatory content and doesn't take it down, they aren't liable and any legal cases against them will get thrown out due to 230.

No it doesn't. Section 230 doesn't allow sites to host illegal content, of course only "legality" within the framework of US law matters.

All it says is that the liability for user posted content lies with the user posting the content, not the platform hosting it. Which to me seems appropriate.

Re: Meta removes ads for social media addiction litigation

#133
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Meta wants to be an impartial platform only and exactly when it suits them to be.

Wow. Does Zuckerberg have some kind of clinical condition where he just can't imagine how other people might see him? Sure this will slow down the personal injury lawyers finding clients but it won't stop them, meantime it is more ammunition for Facebook's enemies to use against it. It is one thing to do shady business, it is another thing to incriminate yourself. If you were involved with weed and somebody sent you…

> Does Zuckerberg have some kind of clinical condition where he just can't imagine how other people might see him?

Nah, he just doesn't care. Nothing he does will ever get people (en masse, onesie, twosies don't matter) to stop using Meta products.

People can/will complain about him forever, but shitty people will continue to help him build things, and shitty people will continue to use them.

Re: Meta removes ads for social media addiction litigation

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Meta wants to be an impartial platform only and exactly when it suits them to be.

Name one platform that doesn't, and I'm not just talking about lip service.

Not an excuse. We shouldn’t turn a blind eye to bad behaviour because “everyone does it”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Re: Meta removes ads for social media addiction litigation

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post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. Does Zuckerberg have some kind of clinical condition where he just can't imagine how other people might see him? Sure this will slow down the personal injury lawyers finding clients but it won't stop them, meantime it is more ammunition for Facebook's enemies to use against it. It is one thing to do shady business, it is another thing to incriminate yourself. If you were involved with weed and somebody sent you…

> Does Zuckerberg have some kind of clinical condition where he just can't imagine how other people might see him? Nah, he just doesn't care. Nothing he does will ever get people (en masse, onesie, twosies don't matter) to stop using Meta products. People can/will complain about him forever, but shitty people will continue to help him build things, and shitty people will continue to use them.

They both captured the early market (inconsistent page style of Myspace, slowness of Friendster, then they acquired Friendfeed) in an early internet - anyone who captures the early market will have THE network effect for decades (plus shadow profiles) as person x joins because person y is there because person z is there - which is still young to this day, and also they apparently used to censor links to their competition

The game is rigged, also Instagram and Whatsapp (yeah, companies get acquired. but WA's Acton was very explicit - "delete Facebook" (also, ever tried deleting FB? almost impossible. more network effects). he was pissed off at what happened)

Re: Meta removes ads for social media addiction litigation

#136

Hang on a minute, meta apparently didn't have the time to be checking the content of adverts they get paid to serve when it was child porn, what's changed all of a sudden?

Excellent point. Suddenly Corporatron finds it easy to censor content in its product.

But why must we limit ourselves to simplistic, false dichotomies such as "Good vs Evil", "Education vs Ignorance", "Community Well-Being vs Disinformation and Arrant Nonsense", "Democracy and Social Confidence vs Propaganda and Conspiratorial Mayhem", and "Mental Health vs Despair and Self-Harm" ? We really are focused on building apps that people love.

Re: Meta removes ads for social media addiction litigation

#137
post #21

Meta wants to be an impartial platform only and exactly when it suits them to be.

Wow. Does Zuckerberg have some kind of clinical condition where he just can't imagine how other people might see him? Sure this will slow down the personal injury lawyers finding clients but it won't stop them, meantime it is more ammunition for Facebook's enemies to use against it. It is one thing to do shady business, it is another thing to incriminate yourself. If you were involved with weed and somebody sent you…

Yes, it's called being a billionaire. I'm sure if clinicians actually studied this group of people, they would find strains of delusions of grandeur, paranoia, extreme risk taking behavior, lack of self control and self awareness, inability to deal with adversity and setbacks without emotional outbursts, inability to contain and dismiss intrusive antisocial thoughts.

I feel probably that the emotional maturity of most billionaires is at the toddler level or below, and I mean that quite seriously and literally.

Re: Meta removes ads for social media addiction litigation

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post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. Does Zuckerberg have some kind of clinical condition where he just can't imagine how other people might see him? Sure this will slow down the personal injury lawyers finding clients but it won't stop them, meantime it is more ammunition for Facebook's enemies to use against it. It is one thing to do shady business, it is another thing to incriminate yourself. If you were involved with weed and somebody sent you…

> Does Zuckerberg have some kind of clinical condition where he just can't imagine how other people might see him? Nah, he just doesn't care. Nothing he does will ever get people (en masse, onesie, twosies don't matter) to stop using Meta products. People can/will complain about him forever, but shitty people will continue to help him build things, and shitty people will continue to use them.

Well Meta products are decaying like Cobalt 60; people are stopping

https://trends.google.com/explore?q=facebook&date=all&geo=US

and maybe Zuck doesn't think he can do anything about it. There are different theories but i like this one:

-- originally you would put some imagination and elbow grease into using Facebook and get some intention which made it very attractive and interesting to people around 2010

-- then it found a business model which was dependent on your not being able to use imagination and elbow grease to get attention which made it less interesting in general but still somewhat interesting because now you could put cash into the slot machine and get cash out

-- over time they lowered the payout of the slot machine which made the game less interesting and more dependent on 100% profitable scams which could function no matter how bad the payout was; people lose trust in the platform and stop engaging with ads, real advertisers don't want to be seen next to scam ads (lest they be seen as scams) which further lowers the payout and makes the game less interesting over time

-- and now they won't even take your money... so who cares?

Re: Meta removes ads for social media addiction litigation

#139
post #21

Meta wants to be an impartial platform only and exactly when it suits them to be.

Wow. Does Zuckerberg have some kind of clinical condition where he just can't imagine how other people might see him? Sure this will slow down the personal injury lawyers finding clients but it won't stop them, meantime it is more ammunition for Facebook's enemies to use against it. It is one thing to do shady business, it is another thing to incriminate yourself. If you were involved with weed and somebody sent you…

When you have f.u. money, you get to say f.u., otherwise what's the point?

Re: Meta removes ads for social media addiction litigation

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Meta wants to be an impartial platform only and exactly when it suits them to be.

Yeah, glad to see Zuck is sticking with those strong free speech principles he couldn't wait to get back to last year.

Free speech which apparently includes https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42651178

I actually am more at odds with HN than many people might be because I think the lies surrounding covid and the censorship were absolutely wrong and platforms could genuinely after things like that lay claim to being unfairly directed, but you can tell Zuck doesn't actually care because he immediately started doing that

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