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Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Post by a13n »

coldpie wrote: post #14

I feel like a crazy person for having to write this, but: if you are starting a business (yes, non-profits are businesses), then you need to have a business plan. If you launch a business and you have not done the work to have a business plan, then in 99.999% of situations, your business will fail. A business plan includes market & competitive research, a revenue plan based on that research that includes realistic pr…

nah. we never had a business plan and are still going strong 11 years later. 99.999% is a gross exaggeration of reality.

we’ll never actually have this data, but I bet there isn’t much correlation if any between having a business plan and being successful.

have you started a successful business?

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Post by MallocVoidstar »

jasonkester wrote: post #106

My advice: If you want people to give you money so that you don’t have to shut down, and you’re writing a ten paragraph plea for donations, consider using one of those paragraphs to tell people what your thing is. If we knew what it was, we might want to help.

It's Signal but blockchain

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Post by array_key_first »

a13n wrote: post #131
coldpie wrote: post #14

I feel like a crazy person for having to write this, but: if you are starting a business (yes, non-profits are businesses), then you need to have a business plan. If you launch a business and you have not done the work to have a business plan, then in 99.999% of situations, your business will fail. A business plan includes market & competitive research, a revenue plan based on that research that includes realistic pr…

nah. we never had a business plan and are still going strong 11 years later. 99.999% is a gross exaggeration of reality. we’ll never actually have this data, but I bet there isn’t much correlation if any between having a business plan and being successful. have you started a successful business?

It took Uber, like, 14 years to become profitable. That doesn't mean Uber is necessarily a success, though. They could still disappear.

There's a lot of corpse businesses around. The walking dead, just operating with zero profit and no realistic plan to be profitable. Their investors are usually just stupid or they think they can eventually squeeze the market so severely they can't go out of business.

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Post by jonex »

a13n wrote: post #131
coldpie wrote: post #14

I feel like a crazy person for having to write this, but: if you are starting a business (yes, non-profits are businesses), then you need to have a business plan. If you launch a business and you have not done the work to have a business plan, then in 99.999% of situations, your business will fail. A business plan includes market & competitive research, a revenue plan based on that research that includes realistic pr…

nah. we never had a business plan and are still going strong 11 years later. 99.999% is a gross exaggeration of reality. we’ll never actually have this data, but I bet there isn’t much correlation if any between having a business plan and being successful. have you started a successful business?

For my master thesis I did a lot of digging into the research on success factors for startups. And at least based on what I found back then, you're right. The correlation is weak between any factor like this and success. Generally positive though, so it does make sense to try doing some planning. But it's definitely not a requirement.

In general, observable factors doesn't strongly correlate with success. Probably both because there are so many to choose from and because the real world is complex and typically doesn't align well with any predefined plan.

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Post by StilesCrisis »

Jare wrote: post #116
miki123211 wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slack (originally an MMO), Nintendo (card games), Nokia (rubber shoes) and Netflix (DVDs over snail mail) would disagree. "We'll gather a bunch of talented people together, figure out what this industry needs and then do that, let's hope we can do that before the money runs out" can be a viable business plan. There's no guarantee it's going to work, there's never a guarantee a plan is going to work, but it can work s…

Plans are useless, but planning is essential. IIRC Nintendo had been operating for decades before they shifted to videogames. And Glitch (the MMO that gave birth to Slack) was also very much a product with a plan. Plan failed, or execution failed, or the industry shifted, or something else, or all or the above. But for sure it was not just "a bunch of talented people."

Nintendo was founded in 1889 and basically predates electricity in the home. I think they did a very successful job pivoting to new forms of entertainment as they arose over the years. Not a planning failure in any sense.

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Post by ergocoder »

I've built many apps throughout the years.

One thing that I've learned is that privacy is a secondary concern. It's never a primary one.

If your app's main differentiation is privacy, it won't sell. Users just don't care about it that much.

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Post by MandieD »

Archelaos wrote: post #11

> In most markets Senior developers often command salaries exceeding $150,000 USD per year Why not outsource this to a cheaper country? For example, here in Germany salaries are about half of that, and the talent pool is excellent.

If you are getting 60k EUR as a senior developer in Germany, you are getting ripped off. Look for a place with an IG Metall contract, friends - if you would like to be making significantly more than $75k USD full time as a senior developer, anyway.
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