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After 20 years I turned off Google Adsense for my websites (2025)

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Re: After 20 years I turned off Google Adsense for my websites (2025)

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Easy to become anti-ad after they stop paying lol Like me becoming anti-my-girlfriend after she dumped me

Well it's a trade off right? If the benefit outweighs the drawbacks, you say yes, and when the benefits evaporate leaving only the drawbacks, it's a no.

Is this the ads or the girlfriend?

Re: After 20 years I turned off Google Adsense for my websites (2025)

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> nor would the very large number of free-as-in-beer services that make up a large part of what makes the internet useful to people. Whatever replaced them could hardly be worse than the shit we currently have. I refuse to believe we live in a global maximum.

You could be right, but I personally am much more comfortable paying with a few milliseconds of my attention for news/email/short comedy clips/timezone conversion/etc. than even a single cent of actual money. And it has to be one or the other -- right?

>than even a single cent of actual money.

I think we often pay those cents without knowing. Companies we employ or purchase from despite never having been subject to their adspend, etc

Re: After 20 years I turned off Google Adsense for my websites (2025)

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I put Adsense on my website in 2004 on a Thursday. Logged in Saturday and discovered that I'd earned $25! I immediately click one of my own ads, then logged back in to check my earnings per click. Later that week I got a warning email from Google. Told my wife. She made me take all of my Adsense ads down immediately for the rest of the month and the first couple weeks of the next until we received our first Adsense c…

> Those were fun times: $50 CPM was not usual 2004-2005.

Do you mean ‘not unusual’?

Re: After 20 years I turned off Google Adsense for my websites (2025)

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Remember the part about all the free-as-in-beer stuff on the internet that people find really useful, and that wouldn't exist if not for ads? That stuff doesn't depend on Alphabet and Meta specifically. It depends on ads . No ads = no that stuff. Are you happy for it to all disappear?

It's not free, we pay for it with our attention. I'd rather pay with money.

How does my attention, the time I spend reading news.ycombinator.com, pay for the site? I DON'T run an ad blocker, but I am not watching any ads here.

Re: After 20 years I turned off Google Adsense for my websites (2025)

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Several years ago, I ran a niche hobbyist website and incorporated Adsense (because why not?!?). The site featured a fuzzy search function since it referenced tens of thousands of named parts. The search result page would echo the (sanitized) search term followed by the matching results - along with recent search terms in the right sidebar. One day, some spambot hit the site and started searching for terms like "meso…

> might surprise you, but Google support was not helpful and after a series of reviews, they permanently shut down Adsense for this site.

Not surprising at all, everything I’ve ever heard about Google support sums up to “they basically don’t have any,” even for enterprises on GCP

Re: After 20 years I turned off Google Adsense for my websites (2025)

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post #13

Several years ago, I ran a niche hobbyist website and incorporated Adsense (because why not?!?). The site featured a fuzzy search function since it referenced tens of thousands of named parts. The search result page would echo the (sanitized) search term followed by the matching results - along with recent search terms in the right sidebar. One day, some spambot hit the site and started searching for terms like "meso…

> Adsense (because why not?!?).

Because ads are cancerous, it may make you a few dollars, it massively reduces the usage of the internet, it eats resources (energy, time) from the world, it helps breaks privacy, it continues to paint the normality of the internet as a cesspit

Re: After 20 years I turned off Google Adsense for my websites (2025)

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post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not free, we pay for it with our attention. I'd rather pay with money.

How does my attention, the time I spend reading news.ycombinator.com, pay for the site? I DON'T run an ad blocker, but I am not watching any ads here.

HN is a recruitment tool for Y Combinator. Someone is paying for it with their attention.

Did you think they are running it out of the goodness of their heart?

Re: After 20 years I turned off Google Adsense for my websites (2025)

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> I never saw most of the offending ads because of my adblocker Using ad blockers is unethical. No one who uses one (probably 99% of people on HN) wants to hear this, but the conclusion is inescapable really. You may commence your downvoting. ETA: Why do I claim it's unethical? Every ad-supported page is an implicit contract: If you want the good stuff on this page, you need to pay for that by giving some of your att…

adverts are unethical, they use psychological manipulation to influence people against their will and often without their knowledge.

Re: After 20 years I turned off Google Adsense for my websites (2025)

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I joined AdSense in 2003. At peak it was generating US$15k a month. Nowadays it will be a miracle if it passes of US$800 a month. I think the shift to a more localised audience (NZ), diversion of ad spend to large social networks are responsible. Our traffic is similar in volume but nowhere near as "valuable" apparently.

All ad networks are cancer, in my humble opinion. Adblocking is a security requirement, so I have no compassion for anybody who bases their economic success on any ad network.

My employer is more scared of browser plugin-based malware than they are of ad-based malware. So that's fun.

Re: After 20 years I turned off Google Adsense for my websites (2025)

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> I never saw most of the offending ads because of my adblocker Using ad blockers is unethical. No one who uses one (probably 99% of people on HN) wants to hear this, but the conclusion is inescapable really. You may commence your downvoting. ETA: Why do I claim it's unethical? Every ad-supported page is an implicit contract: If you want the good stuff on this page, you need to pay for that by giving some of your att…

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