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The Last Quiet Thing

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Re: The Last Quiet Thing

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post #71

I realize the purpose of the essay, and I agree with the author's sentiment that our possessions ask more of us than is necessary, and more than ever before. But I disagree that any object is finished . That Casio that the author mentions, yes it goes 7 years without a battery change, but the day the battery dies will be the day that you have to buy a new battery, figure out how to open it, and change it. Or (as many…

> As long as they keep changing the rules there's no escaping daylight saving time though.

I have a couple of Oceanus (fancy Casio) watches that adapt fine, to whatever DST is. Not sure how they would do in Arizona, though.

I also have a Junghans (more expensive), and it’s stuck in old DST.

I don’t wear any of them. My Apple Watch (cheaper than the others) does fine. It has a GPS-informed time setting. I don’t really use it for a lot of its fancier features, but I like that it allows me to keep my phone on silent.

I am “in the middle.” I don’t pine for “the good ol’ days,” but I also don’t get all hung up on futurism.

WFM. YMMV.

Re: The Last Quiet Thing

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There's a great essay hiding in that page, but oh my goodness that is a frustrating format and layout.

Link at top... https://www.terrygodier.com/the-last-quiet-thing/ascii

I saw it (I am not OC), though I think by pure accident.

There's seemingly appearing trend of ultra low contrast foreground to background (e.g. mid gray text on top of dark gray background), often combined with 1px borders and/or 1px thick fonts.

I constantly need to either zoom on such websites or crank up screen brightness to the max (or both) to be able to see anything (or even better, not visit such sites ever again).

That link you pointed out has:

- mid gray font: rgb(122, 125, 126)

- dark blue tint background: rgb(14, 21, 24)

- 1px border that is nearly invisible against background: rgb(37, 42, 44)

That link text has unacceptable contrast: https://webaim.org/resources/contrastchecker/?fcolor=7A7D7E&... , not to say the border: https://webaim.org/resources/contrastchecker/?fcolor=252A2C&... .

At least main text has passable grade: https://webaim.org/resources/contrastchecker/?fcolor=A89F91&...

Re: The Last Quiet Thing

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I’m 41 and drive a 2011 car: no touchscreen, no GPS—just filling up, checking tire pressure, and an occasional oil change. None of my household appliances are smart, and I don’t have a smartwatch. I subscribe to two podcasts and pay a few euros a month for a VPS and a handful of domains. No Spotify, no Netflix, no subscription software. At the beginning of the year, I bought one of those e-scooters you ride while sta…

What’s wrong with GPS though? Honestly the only reason not to have GPS in your car is because your phone is so much better at it, or if you never go anywhere new.

If you want to disconnect, there are many cars that have GPS but no way to transmit data (and also no internet connection) GPS by itself only requires receiving signals after all.

Re: The Last Quiet Thing

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Counterpoint: everything creates chores. That’s the nature of things. Having to re-pair headphones is like having to clean dishes. Clearing out inboxes is like dusting.

You don’t have to do them, but the author correctly points out that cruft accumulates when you don’t.

Maybe some chores are hardware chores (showering, dishes, laundry) and some are software chores (updates, pairing, EULA screens), and software chores are BAD while hardware chores are GOOD. I know I broadly prefer software chores because they’re easier to resolve, even though they don’t let me work with my hands.

Yes, software chores have increased in the past century. Yes, software chores are human-created or company-created. You know what else has increased? The role of software in our lives, and the number of retail companies the average human interacts with!

Re: The Last Quiet Thing

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Why do those essays read like the watch that they look at every hour somehow became illegal in the last decade?

You can buy one. People still make clothes, pencils, cutlery, automatic watches, furniture — more than they ever did at any point in the past. Automation, electrification, motorization has allowed considerable wealth that has made making all those terminal products that much cheaper, reliable, and easy to do the little maintenance that they do need.

Regretting that there is an alternative to a Casio F-91W is missing that there are more of those made today than in the 90s. Billions more people can afford it now than they ever could, because, among other things, the farmer who collected the latex to make the bracelet can check, on their Android phone, the weather, or whether the bug they found on one of their tree might wipe out their plantation; the driver who delivered a shipment of those watches to the harbor can call the factory admin to fix a paperwork issue.

Like the author, I have some nostalgia about that exact watch: my dad still wears it every day, like he did throughout the 70s, after his dad gave it to him as a present for going to work abroad (in a humid country where a mechanical watch would not have been reasonable to bring). I don’t know how much my grand-father paid for it, but it couldn’t have been cheap given how my dad talks about it.

The parallel stories put both of our family in a minority who were privileged then and are privileged today. We could afford that watch then, when it was the pinnacle of technology, and we can afford the latest iPhone now because we are privileged. $21 is a lot for a lot of people; a second-hand Android can cost five times more. That’s also a lot for people who need more than the time and a beeping alarm to work, pay their taxes, keep their paperwork handy, etc.

Those need more updates because they can do a lot, which means bad people are trying to hack into those, and about their power. Incredibly smart and generous security researchers have been able to find ways they could do that, fix those and share that with us. That’s as much a burden as pulling the ribbon around a birthday present.

Re: The Last Quiet Thing

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I’m 41 and drive a 2011 car: no touchscreen, no GPS—just filling up, checking tire pressure, and an occasional oil change. None of my household appliances are smart, and I don’t have a smartwatch. I subscribe to two podcasts and pay a few euros a month for a VPS and a handful of domains. No Spotify, no Netflix, no subscription software. At the beginning of the year, I bought one of those e-scooters you ride while sta…

Exact same parameters for me. Except, no scooter in the Alps, but I have a CD copy for all the music that I listen to in the car.

Lifetime is the most valuable asset, and protecting it from leaking through infinite scroll, TV, screen time, and meta products is not optional anymore.

On the positive side, I have more time to spend with my children, as they deserve my attention much more than a phone screen.

If tomorrow the internet connection were downgraded to 33.6k, I perhaps wouldn't notice this immediately.

Re: The Last Quiet Thing

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I’m 41 and drive a 2011 car: no touchscreen, no GPS—just filling up, checking tire pressure, and an occasional oil change. None of my household appliances are smart, and I don’t have a smartwatch. I subscribe to two podcasts and pay a few euros a month for a VPS and a handful of domains. No Spotify, no Netflix, no subscription software. At the beginning of the year, I bought one of those e-scooters you ride while sta…

What’s wrong with GPS though? Honestly the only reason not to have GPS in your car is because your phone is so much better at it, or if you never go anywhere new. If you want to disconnect, there are many cars that have GPS but no way to transmit data (and also no internet connection) GPS by itself only requires receiving signals after all.

It's harder and harder to get that combination, so you'd have to install an aftermarket device, which is potentially expensive and "not worth it" depending on your travels.

I use my phone's GPS quite a bit but the reality is that I have maybe one trip a year where I need it, and that can be handled by MapQuest beforehand - remember printing those?

The PARROT is SMART. https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/08/19/can-you-tell-m...

Re: The Last Quiet Thing

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post #115
post #71

I realize the purpose of the essay, and I agree with the author's sentiment that our possessions ask more of us than is necessary, and more than ever before. But I disagree that any object is finished . That Casio that the author mentions, yes it goes 7 years without a battery change, but the day the battery dies will be the day that you have to buy a new battery, figure out how to open it, and change it. Or (as many…

> Some people choose to rent instead of buying because they don't want to deal with property upkeep (which is undoubtedly a bad deal, but one that some choose to make regardless.) Is it? My understanding is that strictly return-wise, index funds are distinctly better than property value in most countries, especially if you factor in all the maintenance cost and risks. Some countries have pretty good tenant protection…

The rent vs own argument is a detailed and deep one, and anyone who comes down 100% on "one answer" (even things like "house hacking") is likely missing something.

Index funds are almost always better than house appreciation over long periods of time; if you discount leverage - because it's "normal" to be leveraged 80% on a house, but you can't margin your index funds that high, and the government doesn't protect you from gambler's ruin on margin.

Owning usually tends to win out the longer you want (or have) to remain in the same location and same house, renting tends to win if you move relatively often (location or changing home type/size, etc) or if you're in a rental inversion (which much of the coasts are in).

At the extremes nobody suggests you should buy a house instead of renting a hotel room or AirBNB in a city you're visiting.

And it's not strictly a financial decision; it's also a personal one and people may choose the "financially non-optimal" because of other reasons.

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