This only restricts flying. Ground based drones do not fly. Problem solved.
The FAA’s flight restriction for drones is an attempt to criminalize filming ICE
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#132It's funny how everyone on HN is against filming people in public places except when they don't like said people and suddenly filming is OK.
Many on HN are opposed to the government trying to protect itself from the exposure of illegal or unpopular actions.
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#133Flying a drone within 1/2 mile of ICE vehicles, which may be unmarked, is illegal? You can be flying a drone and if an unmarked ICE vehicle drives close enough, without warning, you have now broken serious FAA laws? This isn’t the kind of restriction that gets passed when the people making the rules care about being fair or consistent. It’s a power grab.
I hate ICE like the next guy but if the drone followed the wrong car, shouldn't that be illegal?
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#134It's funny how everyone on HN is against filming people in public places except when they don't like said people and suddenly filming is OK.
You think it’s unreasonable to believe that expectation of privacy ought to apply differently to the general population than it does to government officials carrying out their duties? Would you also say it’s inconsistent for me to support FOIA without wanting my personal communications to be subject to it?
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#135Flying a drone within 1/2 mile of ICE vehicles, which may be unmarked, is illegal? You can be flying a drone and if an unmarked ICE vehicle drives close enough, without warning, you have now broken serious FAA laws? This isn’t the kind of restriction that gets passed when the people making the rules care about being fair or consistent. It’s a power grab.
I hate ICE like the next guy but if the drone followed the wrong car, shouldn't that be illegal?
If a car follows your car, is that illegal?
If a drone follows your car, is that illegal?
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#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem with refraining from political violence where it is warranted is that the other side will do it anyway and you end up dead.
>is that the other side will do it anyway and you end up dead. Preemptive first strike logic[1] aside. This logic doesn't work because political violence never gets out of hand so fast that an entire political movement can be wiped out. On the other hand by starting/advocating for political violence you're almost certainly going to get the descent into sectarian violence before you can wipe out all the "fascists". [1…
> This logic doesn't work because political violence never gets out of hand so fast that an entire political movement can be wiped out
Tell that to the German left during the rise of Nazism.
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#137How does this work if they are not clearly defined on a map? Usually TFRs are shown on drone maps so you know where you can fly. If I am flying my drone and an unmarked ICE vehicle drives within half a mile am I in trouble?
yep. the disconnect you're feeling comes from thinking you're living within the normative state, when in fact you're under the prerogative state: > The dual state is a model in which the functioning of a state is divided into a normative state, which operates according to set rules and regulations, and a prerogative state, "which exercises unlimited arbitrariness and violence unchecked by any legal guarantees". https…
Is this not very different from Carl Schmitt's idea of Decisionism[0]? (I think his is more fleshed out philosophically and has a more general character)
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hate ICE like the next guy but if the drone followed the wrong car, shouldn't that be illegal?
If a car follows your car, is that illegal? If a drone follows your car, is that illegal?
If someone systematically follows your car (drone or not), don't you think that should be illegal?
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#139Nobody is even talking about the worst part...the worst part is, that Trump's economic policies are working, at least according to the latest jobs data. Artificially restricting the labor pool, creating massive corporate levies, forcing businesses to hire domestic labor at the same time. Growth has slowed, freedom and movement have slowed, but the "working class" (except Mexicans and other immigrants I guess) is getting what they want: exceptional job security and good wages. This is always the course of a successful fascist regime: you can't go too far, you can't go and exterminate 10% of your population, you can't completely cut off exports and imports. No; remember, for all his faults, Louis the III rebuilt Paris, he created vital infrastructure, plumbing--the streets were clean, orderly. Designed specifically to prevent uprisings, so large sections could be cordoned off; main streets sold to friends of the regime. It didn't work, of course, and it hasn't ever "worked" long term. Capitalism unleashes energies that cannot be rested by state violence. Energies that must be embraced and overcome from within themselves--the freedom that lets you start a business from nothing or creating a product out of almost thin air with just the tools at your disposal and the people you want to work with, unbound by market forces, the traditional family, any religious institutions. But it can't happen easily, and it won't be fun either. Only fascism ever gets to be "fun," and then its terrible.
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
The NOTAM reads: "ALL UNMANNED ACFT ARE PROHIBITED FROM FLYING WITHIN A STAND-OFF DISTANCE OF 3000FT LATERALLY AND 1000FT ABOVE." That is somewhat narrowly defined. I'm sure you can still effectively film them from 1100ft. further: "FACILITIES AND MOBILE ASSETS, INCLUDING VESSELS AND GROUND VEHICLE CONVOYS AND THEIR ASSOCIATED ESCORTS" I think you'd easily beat this language in court. "Please show us where 'mobile as…
You cannot fly drones over 400ft above the ground (with some very narrow exceptions). So this isn't narrow, it's extremely broad. You can't read such rules in a vacuum without knowing their context.
Ummmm… I fly drones at 8,000ft for arial mountain shots… drones are surprisingly capable given good wind conditions.