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> it slightly confuses me take-up hasn't been quicker among people who like me can charge at home No big mystery: a) most people keep cars for 20 years or more, b) most people don't buy new cars - they're too expensive.
What‘s the source for the 20 years? Seems unlikely to me. b) You can also buy used EVs. I bought one last year, 2 years old, for 56% of the original price.
Good ideas do not need lots of lies in order to gain public acceptance (2008)
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Re: Good ideas do not need lots of lies in order to gain public acceptance (2008)
#132I'm not sure. Don't underestimate the power of inertia. I bought an EV last year and it's definitely been a "good idea" for me. Luxurious ride, fuel costs a tenth, doesn't stink. Seems such an obvious upgrade it slightly confuses me take-up hasn't been quicker among people who like me can charge at home.
This feels irrelevant - it's not an idea about which lots of lies are being told in favor ? (quite a lot of .. misapprehensions against, though)
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would you be willing to share your math?
Okay, it immediately costs more to buy an EV than it does to run my existing car. The monthly payment to buy an EV is more than I spend on fuel. Then I'd be paying roughly ten times as much for insurance, because it's a new and valuable car, and being "keyless" it cannot be secured in any meaningful way without locking it in a garage, which I don't have. Because I don't have a garage or a driveway I can't park right…
EV servicing is cheaper and I do it less often.
I bought used. The monthly depreciation is less than my previous fuel bill.
YMMV.
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#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
> it slightly confuses me take-up hasn't been quicker among people who like me can charge at home No big mystery: a) most people keep cars for 20 years or more, b) most people don't buy new cars - they're too expensive.
Is there not a big image factor? Like, people don't want to be seen as the type of person who'd drive an electric.
Re: Good ideas do not need lots of lies in order to gain public acceptance (2008)
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
> it slightly confuses me take-up hasn't been quicker among people who like me can charge at home No big mystery: a) most people keep cars for 20 years or more, b) most people don't buy new cars - they're too expensive.
What‘s the source for the 20 years? Seems unlikely to me. b) You can also buy used EVs. I bought one last year, 2 years old, for 56% of the original price.
Re: Good ideas do not need lots of lies in order to gain public acceptance (2008)
#136Re: Good ideas do not need lots of lies in order to gain public acceptance (2008)
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is there not a big image factor? Like, people don't want to be seen as the type of person who'd drive an electric.
Mine is a model available with different power trains, so nobody knows. Or cares, I'm sure!
Re: Good ideas do not need lots of lies in order to gain public acceptance (2008)
#138Re: Good ideas do not need lots of lies in order to gain public acceptance (2008)
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
> it slightly confuses me take-up hasn't been quicker among people who like me can charge at home No big mystery: a) most people keep cars for 20 years or more, b) most people don't buy new cars - they're too expensive.
The average car in the UK is ten years old: https://www.racfoundation.org/media-centre/average-car-in-th... ; while I have an 18 year old car, I'm an outlier on my street. It's true that most people don't buy new, but there's still 20% of purchases new, and a steady flow of EVs into the used market.
> As of 2025, the average age of a scrapped car in the UK is between 16 and 20 years old!
Re: Good ideas do not need lots of lies in order to gain public acceptance (2008)
#140Interesting that this quote was initially about stock options at tech companies. It turned out that stock options did become nearly universal in tech compensation, and companies that granted them outcompeted companies that did not. So the management that was ostensibly “doing a massive blag at the expense of shareholders” wasn’t really, time vindicated their practices and things like option backdating and not treatin…