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Re: Apple Business

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Post by awakeasleep »

drcongo wrote: post #85
bigyabai wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A B2C relationship and a B2B relationship are not the same thing. Apple does well with the B2C pipeline, but they will only surpass Jamf in the B2B department if they play dirty.

By business relationship I meant B2B. They're excellent.

I have managed multiple relationships with Apple business and the only thing I can think you could possibly be talking about is having a local store reserve devices for you to buy.

As far as identifying a bug in the software and getting it fixed, or requesting a feature, you run into a brick wall. Taking that feedback from customers is not the Apple way. This is why there is a market for third party MDM companies in the first place.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by dangus »

Petersipoi wrote: post #123
dangus wrote: post #111

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Serviceable != upgradable or long-lasting. So many people are going to get burned by the hypnotism of these Neos. They're going to be gateways into being traded in within 2-3 years to get something with more RAM and storage when their owners find out how much they struggle with basic tasks due to insufficient RAM and storage. If you actually go on Best Buy or Micro Center websites and look at street prices you'll rea…

$500 for 2-3 years is great. And it will last much longer than that in reality. It's pretty plain to see that the Neo eats any competitors lunch at that price point. It isn't close.

The computer is $600. It’s only $500 on the education store. Many Apple customers will not have access. Anyone who walks into a physical Apple Store will have to prove their eduction status.

I am not sure why it’s eating competitors lunch when many very well-regarded competitors are in the price range available at stores.

What’s better about a Neo than a Yoga 7? Same price range.

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/lenovo-yoga-7-2-in-1-copilot...

This is $40 more than the Neo’s top model and you get double the RAM and an OLED convertible touch screen.

Re: Apple Business

#133

Post by sleepybrett »

selectively wrote: post #101
radicaldreamer wrote: post #58

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That might be true for tech startups, but many businesses (even "new" ones) go with Microsoft 365 as a default, especially outside of the west coast or NYC.

Exactly. 365 gets you perfect compatibility and the 'real tools that professionals use'. Not Google Docs or some weird Apple thing - the tools that always will read the document.

If you can navigate the terrible UI enough to find the open button on the proper 'ribbon', that is. The ribbon makeover should have textbooks written about it so we can teach our future UI designers not to make the same mistakes again.

Re: Apple Business

#134

Post by steve1977 »

minimaxir wrote: post #47

It is very funny that a business-oriented product does not highlight Apple's business productivity software in iWork (Pages/Numbers/Keynote).

I thought that's now considered creator productivity software.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by sleepybrett »

dangus wrote: post #111
martibravo wrote: post #17

599$ serviceable MacBooks, easy to use MDM, Cloud, Email and Calendar and flat-fee AppleCare all baked in? New businesses under 50 employees are going to eat this up like there's no tomorrow. I'd be scared if I was certain Redmond corporation who makes their money on 365 and Intune.

Serviceable != upgradable or long-lasting. So many people are going to get burned by the hypnotism of these Neos. They're going to be gateways into being traded in within 2-3 years to get something with more RAM and storage when their owners find out how much they struggle with basic tasks due to insufficient RAM and storage. If you actually go on Best Buy or Micro Center websites and look at street prices you'll rea…

My phone costs twice as much and I replace it every 2-3 years.

You know what people who outgrow their applebooks are going to do? Buy a macbook air or pro. They aren't going to buy a windows machine. Some might buy a linux machine.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by AnonC »

genthree wrote: post #72
selectively wrote: post #22

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Microsoft is a giant enterprise software company that also publishes Candy Crush and Call of Duty. Intune and Windows are 'nice to have' but are not the business-business. The business is 365 (which runs on Macs and is worlds better than Apple's office suite + Apple's hosted email is god awful) and Azure.

Apple's office suite is my favorite I've ever used, and it's not close. After that, old copies of MSOffice. Next-best would be a hodgepodge of the lighter options on Linux and such. Gnumeric, Abiword, that sort of thing. Not great, but at least they're light on resources and easy to use. Distantly after that, LibreOffice. Then, modern MSOffice in last place. The only reason I'd count any of them as "worse" than moder…

> Apple's office suite is my favorite I've ever used, and it's not close.

I’ve written many comments criticizing this. Do you use a lot of keyboard shortcuts when you use Numbers or Pages or Keynote or do you use the trackpad/mouse a lot? I generally find these apps and others lacking on the keyboard front, by which I mean that it’s almost impossible to use them without a trackpad or a mouse. I can completely live with just a keyboard on Excel or LibreOffice Calc.

BTW, I hate all the MS Office applications (and find them quite buggy and annoying) except for Excel. Maybe I’m just a lot more used to using Excel.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by lowdude »

wereHamster wrote: post #60

business.apple.com doesn't work in Firefox, it redirects you to https://business.apple.com/abm_unsupported_browser?reason=Br... Fuck you Apple.

Yes, and it works with a user agent switcher extension for Firefox, which is always the cherry on top.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by aftergibson »

MidnightRider39 wrote: post #82
genthree wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple's office suite is my favorite I've ever used, and it's not close. After that, old copies of MSOffice. Next-best would be a hodgepodge of the lighter options on Linux and such. Gnumeric, Abiword, that sort of thing. Not great, but at least they're light on resources and easy to use. Distantly after that, LibreOffice. Then, modern MSOffice in last place. The only reason I'd count any of them as "worse" than moder…

Crazy how different people experience this. For me it’s completely inverted; Google is top place, then Libreoffice, then MSOffice, then anything by Apple last place.

Yeah that would by my ranking too. At work is Google because it's the best, particularly for collabotation, personally all in on FOSS.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by lowdude »

zb3 wrote: post #56

So will Apple users be able disable these ads in maps?

The nice thing about many of the native apps compared to their Google pendants is the absence of ads, with the glaring exception of the app store, which looks like a dumpster-fire. It is so disheartening to see the trend of shoving ads everywhere continue with Apple as well. I guess the profits are just too tempting to stick with idealistic UX decisions, if there was any of that left in the first place.
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