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I’m searching for the source material here but must not be using the right keywords, any hints?
I've looked a few times over the years but can't find it online. National Archives probably has it somewhere, but not indexed where Google can find it.
There's a company which sells something like this, as "Prepper Disk".[1] In the 1950s, US Civil Defense had a set of microfilms on how to rebuild society. These were packaged with a sunlight reader and stored in larger fallout shelters. Someone should find one of those. [1] https://www.prepperdisk.com/
joke’s on the survivors who have to go find sunlight in nuclear winter
The installation seems a bit cumbersome and unfriendly to non-technical people. If it's self-contained, it ought to be simple and platform agnostic, not tied to Ubuntu or a specific OS. I'll fork this and re-frame it into a SPA with a Tauri path.
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the specific type of person that is buying hundreds of guns, tons of dehydrated meals Both of which are available at Wal-Mart. I always knew about the guns, but only recently discovered that Wal-Mart stores (at least in Louisiana) carry huge buckets with weeks worth of dehydrated survival food. I'm sure it's for hurricanes. Yeah, that's it.
Costco sells those, too. https://www.costco.com/p/-/mountain-house-1-year-emergency-f... Sometimes they even appear in stores. Apparently Mormons are required to keep some amount of emergency food on site.
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I am not a prepper, but I always found immediate dismissal of their stance odd. If you see clouds on the horizon, reasonable people start preparing. Some preparations take longer than others so longer than others. And this does not account for the fact that one the steady lull ( in US and most of Europe ) of the past 70 or so years is not the norm in our world.
calling someone a prepper is an adhom, just like calling a greenie a tree hugger. just another way to dismiss something that is emotionally confronting so one can continue to feel some comfort in their own bubble.
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Well usually when people refer to someone as a prepper its the specific type of person that is buying hundreds of guns, tons of dehydrated meals but still living on city water - like they're preparing for a disaster movie but not anything real. Specifically the idea that you would be able to stay in place, with all your hoarded disaster crap, during the end of the world is kind of funny.
the specific type of person that is buying hundreds of guns, tons of dehydrated meals Both of which are available at Wal-Mart. I always knew about the guns, but only recently discovered that Wal-Mart stores (at least in Louisiana) carry huge buckets with weeks worth of dehydrated survival food. I'm sure it's for hurricanes. Yeah, that's it.
Take, for example, the 2018 California Camp Fire, the various southern winter flash power outages, or the endemic hurricane season pretty much everywhere exposed to the middle or southern pacific.
"For hurricanes" is a cute way to minimize it, but in much of the country it's rather little that separates you from being left to your own devices, at least for a little while, even when you're just suburban and haven't even looked out to the rural U.S.
There is a real deferred maintenance and resource mismanagement issue in this country. The increasing evidence of "preppers" and items like ration buckets becoming prevalent at bulk store operations like Walmart & Costco are early indications of the increasing prevalence of these issues.
Take a survey of the items that are always available at most Costos or Sam's Clubs across the country and you'll see similar results. They essentially market decentralized infrastructure for those that can afford it (or those who can't afford not to have it).
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the specific type of person that is buying hundreds of guns, tons of dehydrated meals Both of which are available at Wal-Mart. I always knew about the guns, but only recently discovered that Wal-Mart stores (at least in Louisiana) carry huge buckets with weeks worth of dehydrated survival food. I'm sure it's for hurricanes. Yeah, that's it.
Costco sells those, too. https://www.costco.com/p/-/mountain-house-1-year-emergency-f... Sometimes they even appear in stores. Apparently Mormons are required to keep some amount of emergency food on site.
Source: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/life/home-storage-center... (In older literature & analysis it used to be called the LDS Cannery or LDS Dry Cannery, but I guess they recently rebranded it.)
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I am not a prepper, but I always found immediate dismissal of their stance odd. If you see clouds on the horizon, reasonable people start preparing. Some preparations take longer than others so longer than others. And this does not account for the fact that one the steady lull ( in US and most of Europe ) of the past 70 or so years is not the norm in our world.
The kind of prepping in "prepper" culture though is bullshit. People living and having actual experience in such dangerous places don't prep like that.
(I've also spent time living in legit BFE where the closest store for something can be more than an hour away, YMMV)
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I mean preppers are mostly cosplayers and I don't criticize people who go to comicon either. If you're not hurting anyone there's nothing wrong with having an unrealistic hobby or one without a lot of practical utility (even if the premise of the hobby is having practical utility). But the western Roman empire fell and cities depopulated and folks switched back to subsistence farming for hundreds of years. And plenty…
> But the western Roman empire fell and cities depopulated and folks switched back to subsistence farming for hundreds of years. > And plenty of places have been at war and had much of civilization's usefulness diminished from days to decades. Not to mention straightforward natural disasters. The only one of those things someone survived by being an individual prepper is the natural disaster, because in the other cas…
You overestimate the importance of government and underestimate how it very much can just go away... and how distant it can be even when it exists, particularly historically. And how the local warlord equivalent isn't going around to everybody's house and murdering them.
And yeah in those times having food and a means of defense and whatever else is useful as often times very very many people had no option but to stay wherever they were. Famine and revolution are much more common and more mundane than you expect.