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Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by mothballed »

dymk wrote: post #106
standardUser wrote: post #99

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I've found that looking the person in the eye and giving a quick "hey, forget your headphones?" sometimes does the trick, and has yet to start a fight. Everyone has to act in ways they are comfortable with - but mass inaction is what creates space for this shitty behavior in the first place.

I did this on a bus and had a gun pulled on me, so your mileage may vary

Yes exactly. If they are blasting ethnic music while in an ethnic hood it is usually because they are repping their hood, and sometimes in a way to intentionally bait someone to say something. If you ask them to stop they will pretend it is a challenge on their hood/race (no matter that they will play it so loud everyone's ears are splitting and all they want is not to get hearing damage). I watched a guy pull out a knife and start slashing as soon as he was asked to stop.

If you ask such person to stop it is implied they expect you to back that up with violence and you've already consented to a battle.

Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by Spooky23 »

callamdelaney wrote: post #113
balderdash wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is - there are three groups of people that do this generally the completely self absorbed, people from places where it’s culturally acceptable, and people that like the feeling of empowerment that comes from inconveniencing others (the same people that will walk out into traffic with no light / crosswalk)

How is walking over a road without a light inconveniencing anyone? I’ll cross the road when it’s clear. I don’t blast music in public places though.

It’s going over your head. He’s talking about certain people.

Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by jraines »

pjmlp wrote: post #31

Is this really a thing?!? Blasting the others with unwanted noise. I never been in a flight, or train across Europe where passengers showed just lack of respect for the others. The only ones pumping anything loud, on trains or busses, usually get quickly pointed down by other passengers, personal or security. Ah, and then there are the rebellious kids or gangs, as the other exception, which usually don't take flights…

Last time I flew my family was very early to the gate; it was me, my wife, my 5 and 3 year old girls, and a very elderly lady in a wheelchair who was blasting Kendrick Lamar’s “Not Like Us” from her phone speakers.

Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by fhdkweig »

lostlogin wrote: post #82
NikolaNovak wrote: post #74

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I am astonished how many people now use speakerphone as their default interaction. On subway, go train, in grocery stores, on the streets, sometimes even in the office, they blast their conversations with zero care. And so yes, I've definitely seen and experienced people watching inane tiktoks on speaker in subway or bus or airplane. It's the epitome of complete lack of empathy or self awareness to me, but I guess th…

Phone makers deleted the speaker is the ‘courage’ I want.

There are times you need speaker-phone mode. My parents almost always turn on speaker-phone when they call me because they both want to be part of the conversation. I don't think they will ever take a plane or a bus trip in their lives so their speaker-phone isn't going to hurt anyone.

Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by sheiyei »

lesuorac wrote: post #122
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #117

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> How is walking over a road without a light inconveniencing anyone? They said “walk out into traffic.” That’s rude. You should wait for a signal or a break in the flow so nobody has to brake for you.

Getting pedantic now but depending on the circumstances the traffic is supposed to have stopped for you. Assuming there is no paint on the road an (unmarked) crosswalk may still exist [1] and drivers are supposed to yield to a pedestrian in a marked or unmarked crosswalk [2]. [1]: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio... . [2]: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio...

Getting pedantic here, "no light / crosswalk" means no crosswalk, painted or not.

Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by 3842056935870 »

slg wrote: post #52
mikkupikku wrote: post #34

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In America, a small number of people derive pleasure from being disruptive to everybody, and blasting music on public transit with captive audiences is a very "traditional" way of fucking with people and expressing your broad contempt for their society. I'd estimate that maybe one in five times you get on a city bus in America, you'll encounter somebody like this. Very rarely does anybody call them out or otherwise t…

>is a very "traditional" way of fucking with people and expressing your broad contempt for their society. Motivated in large part as a response to society saying fuck them. I'm not defending assholes being assholes, but I think what we have been seeing in the US over the last 5 or 10 years is classic collapse of the social contract stuff. The less a society cares about its people the less its people will care about t…

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Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by schrodinger »

callamdelaney wrote: post #113
balderdash wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is - there are three groups of people that do this generally the completely self absorbed, people from places where it’s culturally acceptable, and people that like the feeling of empowerment that comes from inconveniencing others (the same people that will walk out into traffic with no light / crosswalk)

How is walking over a road without a light inconveniencing anyone? I’ll cross the road when it’s clear. I don’t blast music in public places though.

Depending on where you live it may not really be relatable to you, but living in NYC -- there are people that will intentionally jay walk on a green light and even _stare you down_ knowing that you will stop and let them pass.

People jay walk when there's no traffic all the time, that's totally fine. This is a totally different act of passive aggression.

Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by charcircuit »

e40 wrote: post #72
andy99 wrote: post #71

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Pretty sure on planes this is more ignorance than malice. It’s self absorbed people that are too selfish to consider someone else might not want to hear what they’re watching, rather than some deliberate anti society thing. Regardless, no punishment is too harsh, this should be considered the equivalent of lighting up a cigarette on a plane.

The idea someone doesn’t know they bothering everyone around them is absurd. It is 100% malice.

I experienced this in real life and this creature was unable to understand the bus driver telling her to stop. It's like they didn't understand English nor social signals. To me it seemed to stem from a lack of intelligence than from intentionally being malicious.

Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by 3842056935870 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #33
SilverElfin wrote: post #14

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I often see younger people in parks near me blasting loud music on speakers. It’s so disrespectful to those looking for a peaceful place. Especially when they’re playing explicit rap music with everyone’s families and children around.

> It’s so disrespectful to those looking for a peaceful place Idk, they’re not looking for “a peaceful place” and are using a public space without damaging it. Nobody is forced to use the park at the same time as them. This seems like a difference in preferences which is fine.

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Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by mothballed »

sowbug wrote: post #97
andy99 wrote: post #71

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Pretty sure on planes this is more ignorance than malice. It’s self absorbed people that are too selfish to consider someone else might not want to hear what they’re watching, rather than some deliberate anti society thing. Regardless, no punishment is too harsh, this should be considered the equivalent of lighting up a cigarette on a plane.

Another angle is kids who have been given a tablet as a pacifier. Their parents are often on autopilot, having checked out months or years earlier. On topic (and discussed already on HN): https://github.com/Pankajtanwarbanna/stfu

When young children are on airplanes you cheat in whatever way you can.
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