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Aliens.gov ~ domain registered 17MAR2026

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Re: Aliens.gov ~ domain registered 17MAR2026

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Post by Detrytus »

netsharc wrote: post #75
krembo wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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If you wish to divert from the discussion of whether free and fair elections is still possible in the USA, and would rather enter the meta-discussion, I'll bite, and cite Wikipedia: > Godwin's law can be applied mistakenly or abused as a distraction, a diversion, or even censorship, when miscasting an opponent's argument as hyperbole even when the comparison made by the argument is appropriate. https://en.wikipedia.o…

I wonder if Godwins law and such did more harm than good in the end? I mean: yes, Hitler was a terrible person and Holocaust was horrible, but, by putting so much effort into convincing everyone that Hitler and Holocaust were so unique things in the history of mankind you’re basically creating a blind spot, where the resurgence of fascism goes unnoticed because everyone thinks “it can’t as bad as Hitler and the Nazis, right?”

Re: Aliens.gov ~ domain registered 17MAR2026

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

estearum wrote: post #117
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #112

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Your number 3 makes no sense, if you have “signed your rights away” why would they move you? For fun? But let’s say that’s the case… doesn’t that just prove my point that if you are here illegally, that it make no sense to stay?

Them: If you are detained by ICE even if you do have __legal status__ You: doesn’t that just prove my point that if you are here __illegally__ They're talking about the now well-established fact that ICE is pursuing people who have legal status in this country and using all sorts of tricks (both legal and illegal) to prevent them from exercising their rights. Here's one example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detentio…

I’m sure there is a better example that makes the point you are going for.

Without muddying, the discussion is if you are here illegally, it seems better to self-deport and control your own destiny than to risk ICE for the next 3-11+ years.

Re: Aliens.gov ~ domain registered 17MAR2026

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Post by low_tech_love »

rvnx wrote: post #16
bombcar wrote: post #3

It's just going to be illegal.aliens.gov :(

https://x.com/dhsgov/status/2034000845503693180?s=46 There is this promotional campaign on-going, it could be related https://www.dhs.gov/cbphome It seems to be an incentive for voluntarily departure

I never get why people think these things will work. The only ones who take deals like this are honest people who are struggling. Criminals don’t self deport, they want to stay, not leave. It’s the same in Europe, they make laws to deport people for small bureaucratic details, honest people say “yes sir” and leave, but the criminals don’t give a shit, they just stay. So you deport the good ones and keep the bad ones, what the hell do you get from that? I guess the real point is that nobody in politics really cares about illegal aliens and criminals, they only want the power that comes from populism.

Re: Aliens.gov ~ domain registered 17MAR2026

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Post by A1kmm »

wavemode wrote: post #97
Void_ wrote: post #41

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According to Polymarket, there's a 16% chance US will confirm aliens exist: https://polymarket.com/event/will-the-us-confirm-that-aliens...

Taking the opposite side of this bet feels like a free 19% return on your money.

It's based on what Donald Trump (or any other US president, should it come to that) says, not on any evidence or ground truth beyond that.

The are motives for lying on this - for a start, if a president knows definitively they're going to say it, it's a free 81% return. Secondly, it's a pretty big dead cat to throw on the table to distract from any scandal and/or to keep themselves in the news cycle on a different topic.

Re: Aliens.gov ~ domain registered 17MAR2026

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Post by rb12345 »

loeg wrote: post #54
13hunteo wrote: post #42

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Cries in UK $8 a gallon

Your gallons are a bit bigger than US gallons, but not 2x bigger.

Assuming US gallons, $8/US gallon works out as £1.60/litre. That sounds about right for current UK prices, depending on what and where you're buying it. (Yes, fuel is expensive here compared to the US; that's largely down to fuel duty and taxes.)

Re: Aliens.gov ~ domain registered 17MAR2026

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Post by lesostep »

estearum wrote: post #51
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #45

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Objectively, which is hard to say because I’m just obviously not in this position, but if I were in the United States legally and I’m looking at three options… 1. I take self-deportation offer. At Christmas it was $3000 a person, but usually $1000, a commercial plane ticket anywhere, and I can come back to the US upon following the legal method. I can say goodbye to people I can sell my things. I can do this on my ow…

"A commercial plane ticket anywhere" != the legal right to go anywhere Pretty much you go back to your country of origin Typically people take on the immense risk and challenge of leaving their country of origin to come here because their country of origin has really bad problems Those problems likely still exist or have gotten worse over the last several years due to (if nothing else) COVID further separating the US…

>> Pretty much you go back to your country of origin I'm completely out of my depths there, can you explain how will they know my country of origin if I'm undocumented?

Re: Aliens.gov ~ domain registered 17MAR2026

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Post by estearum »

lesostep wrote: post #137
estearum wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"A commercial plane ticket anywhere" != the legal right to go anywhere Pretty much you go back to your country of origin Typically people take on the immense risk and challenge of leaving their country of origin to come here because their country of origin has really bad problems Those problems likely still exist or have gotten worse over the last several years due to (if nothing else) COVID further separating the US…

>> Pretty much you go back to your country of origin I'm completely out of my depths there, can you explain how will they know my country of origin if I'm undocumented?

Well if they don't, they'll just pick a random as-awful-as-possible country to send you to.

Re: Aliens.gov ~ domain registered 17MAR2026

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Post by pdimitar »

kibwen wrote: post #85
Void_ wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to Polymarket, there's a 16% chance US will confirm aliens exist: https://polymarket.com/event/will-the-us-confirm-that-aliens...

We know for a fact that the US government has no evidence of aliens existing, because there's a 0% chance Trump wouldn't have blabbed about it during his first term.

I mean, fair, but who says he'll be appraised and knowing about it at all?

Re: Aliens.gov ~ domain registered 17MAR2026

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Post by K0balt »

StephenHerlihyy wrote: post #109
rvnx wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://x.com/dhsgov/status/2034000845503693180?s=46 There is this promotional campaign on-going, it could be related https://www.dhs.gov/cbphome It seems to be an incentive for voluntarily departure

I had heard of that but it wasn’t until you posted the link that I actually read through it. My question after actually reading it though is simple - how does it prevent fraud? Like you just need GPS and a selfie to verify. No bank account required! Since the nominal case is undocumented you don’t have ground truth to check against. What is stopping someone from using an eSIM, OpenClaw, and an emulator from self-depo…

The object is to create metrics that are plausible (or more specifically for which the knowledge of falsification is plausibly deniable), not to actually self deport people (although that could be viewed as a desirable side effect).

We can be sure that the weakness in this scheme is being exploited, since it was designed to maximise metrics, not results.

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