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Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI

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Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI

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Post by SonOfKyuss »

dozerly wrote: post #120
Refreeze5224 wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're mixing up what AI is for compared to horses and cars. Horses/cars enable people to be more efficient. AI enables companies to fire people. Horses/cars improve productivity. AI reduces payroll costs. That's the whole game here.

The assumption behind this comment is that AI is more productive than Human + AI at this point in time, and I don’t think we’ve seen that be true yet.

No the assumption behind the statement and many others on this topic is not AI is more productive than Human + AI, it’s that 9 (or 8 or 6) humans + AI is more productive than 10 humans. No one is suggesting getting rid of all workers, but many are saying they can get rid of a significant percentage of them. It remains to be seen if that ends up being true but it is fundamentally different from what you are describing

Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI

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Post by [deleted] »

gexla wrote: post #96
elzbardico wrote: post #72

Atlassian is cutting another 1600 jobs because it needs to cut more jobs as it is a dying company with terrible products. But let's try to spin it up as if we were some kind of AI mavens who are reaping humongous increases in productivity due to our thought leadership in AI.

Global uncertainty Tariffs War in the Middle East US economy that would likely be in recession if not for massive datacenter spend Oil at ~$100 But we're laying people off because... AI

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Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI

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Post by oliyoung »

bdcravens wrote: post #116
karim79 wrote: post #97

I see. So AI is reducing the number of jobs in the tech sector because fewer people are needed to ship stuff (thanks to AI). And since fewer people are needed across the tech sector then we don't need things like Jira anymore because it can all be done on post-its or Google sheets or something, so there's no need for Atlassian accounts anymore. And Atlassian can now do more with less thanks to AI. I can't wait for At…

In many cases, sticky notes are more productive.

wait, can you _see_ my desk right now?

Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI

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Post by MeetingsBrowser »

itomato wrote: post #78
MeetingsBrowser wrote: post #63

Layoffs because of AI make no sense to me. Imagine you own a company that is paid to deliver packages. You use horses and differentiate by delivering quicker than everyone else. Then cars are invented and everyone starts delivering packages faster. In what world does a healthy growing business react to this by laying off couriers "in a pivot to automotive transportation". Would a healthy business not switch everyone…

They just announced GA of agentic assignees. It suggests a year or more of maturation. Rovo Dev has already been a thing. The Java products are almost EOL. They have already been assigning JAC tickets to Rovo and $TEAM is down. What else should be done with the surplus headcount?

My point exactly. This implies atlassian is not a healthy growing business, but a stagnant or even shrinking one.

Layoffs have little to do with AI, and more akin to fuel being jettisoned to stay in the air longer.

Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI

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Post by teeray »

yubainu wrote: post #134

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> I worry that everything in society will become uniform

That’s why “slop” is so appropriate. It’s the runoff from the taps poured into a glass. Tastes like everything, nothing, definitely not pleasing, probably cheap, still effective at getting you inebriated.

Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI

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Post by MeetingsBrowser »

sally_glance wrote: post #104
MeetingsBrowser wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think AI is even partially to blame. Unless Atlassian is claiming AI can fully replace 1,600 workers, layoffs don't make sense. You need people driving AI to get the benefits. Its like a courier service that uses horses firing people once cars are invented because cars are faster than horses. You would switch everyone from horses to cars and deliver more packages.

Good point, but what if you were previously chaining horse carriage rides and now a car can cover the same distance as 10 of them with a single driver?

You can now deliver 10x the packages and make 10x money.

What healthy business aims to stagnate in the face of a revolutionary technology?

Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI

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Post by MeetingsBrowser »

laughing_man wrote: post #93
MeetingsBrowser wrote: post #63

Layoffs because of AI make no sense to me. Imagine you own a company that is paid to deliver packages. You use horses and differentiate by delivering quicker than everyone else. Then cars are invented and everyone starts delivering packages faster. In what world does a healthy growing business react to this by laying off couriers "in a pivot to automotive transportation". Would a healthy business not switch everyone…

It makes quite a bit of sense if the size of your market doesn't expand along with the new technology and you don't have a competitive advantage. Just because you have the capability to deliver more packages doesn't necessarily mean you'll have customers willing to pay you to deliver more packages.

> your market doesn't expand along with the new technology and you don't have a competitive advantage.

a.k.a the real reason for the layoffs. The underlying business is stagnant and unable to take advantage of the additional resources.

Strong businesses aim to grow revenue. Struggling businesses aim to cut costs.

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