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Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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I am still amazed that prostitution is legal when done online, and these teenage sex workers are allowed to continue selling themselves.

Most of the risks if traditional prostitution are absent in an online interaction so it's not that surprising to me.

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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That's how exploitation works: The exploited don't have another choice. That doesn't make doing cruel things to them wrong and (hopefully) illegal. For example, someone could compel people who are starving to do all sorts of horrible things for food, and then say 'well, they chose to do it!'.

Once you make this job illegal, what do you think she does then for a job? By taking this job she has revealed that this is her best option. When you make the job illegal, you're forcing her to take a worse alternative.

That's the argument of employers, who introduce that false choice. The option they don't mention is to pay them more.

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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I find it sad that there's a story of people (mostly women) doing this disgusting job for little pay (yes, chatting up horny men online because you need the money is disgusting, there's no glamour and little dignity to it), and the top comment is how this is unfair to the john (purchaser of sex work) because it's misleading.

Sex work is work. They’re not being coerced. There’s no more or less dignity to it than being a waitress or checkout clerk. It’s no more or less disgusting than being a hospice nurse or a garbage collector. It’s just a job. Jobs are not inherently fraudulent, however. A deal is a deal, and this is plainly fraud. It is unfair to the purchaser, and it is not unfair to the people who voluntarily accept these jobs (when…

> There’s no more or less dignity to it than being a waitress or checkout clerk.

Do you imagine this is how the workers feel about it? Do you think they tell their friends "I seduce western men online for pennies an hour" the same way they'd say "I am a waitress?" You can ignore this fact if you wish, but these jobs carry a social stigma and most people would prefer not to role play intimacy with men online if there were another option.

"Sex work is work" is like saying slavery could theoretically be OK under some circumstances (We're all born under legal obligations, how is slavery different etc etc.). A tortured theoretical argument could be made to support either of these, but in reality we know that slavery is unconscionable because of the indignity and brutality of it, regardless of theory. "Sex work" is the same: in reality it is a dangerous and unpleasant job (that overlaps with slavery a lot, incidentally) done mostly be vulnerable women, and that they're often abused and left injured by it. See this article before you go saying prostitution is benign and harmless, this stance is divorced from reality: https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/human-trafficki...

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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You betray your ignorance of how parasocial OnlyFans and their ilk get. Yes, people get real connection out of it, whether its with who they think they're talking to or not. I think that connecting those people into a chat bot instead of a real human is depressing, and a bad thing for society, but you're welcome to disagree with that

I'll admit. I' too old to 'get' OF.

What's there to get? People, overwhemingly men, pay for adult content from performers, majority women.

It often involves a supposedly personal touch (like chatting with (someone pretending to be) them, or being able to pay for custom content).

Nothing really exceptional in any way other than scale, democratisation (anyone of age can sign up to post content) and the digital transformation. Back in the day people used to buy porn magazines with their niche preferences, and write in letters to share their stories / fantasies and get responses back.

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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How is this not fraud, or at least false advertising? If I'm paying money to chat with a specific sex worker how is it even legal to let some random dude in a third world country pretend to be the person I'm supposed to be talking to? I've never personally engaged in these types of systems, but I don't think there's a problem with them as long as they are run honestly. It sounds like Onlyfans is exploiting workers an…

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Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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post #41

I am still amazed that prostitution is legal when done online, and these teenage sex workers are allowed to continue selling themselves.

I am still amazed that there are people who think that drugs and prostitution will go away if we just make sure that they are illegal. Might as well add 'swearing' to that list.

What's the point of making murder and rape illegal if people are still going to do it?

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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Now this is almost entirely automated anyway, there is a big adult ecosystem here in Cyprus and i talk to a lot of people. No manual work is used there anymore, "chatters" are a thing of the past. Now they are well on the path to automate OnlyFans models themselves, there are plenty of hybrid sites where known live models are attracted with good terms to bring in the users, and then slowly switched for AI ones, and i…

Even bigger stars seem to be doing it. This is Carmen Electra's _verified_ Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/CarmenElectra Scroll down a bit and you'll see all of the images have the exact same face plastered on a clearly AI body and the account is posting new photos multiple times per day. And every single post has thousands of likes and hundreds of messages from actual humans. People either don't notice the o…

Heh, she's 53 years old! Obviously her followers don't care they're looking at fake photos.

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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> unless the participants in the deal are being coerced. Here's the nice thing about it: they are! If they don't work (for any of the equally exploitative companies in their country) they die.

And yet lots of people don't work for companies and still manage not to die. I wonder how they do it? A mystery, I guess.

Yes, everyone should become a one-person company!

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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post #95

How is this not fraud, or at least false advertising? If I'm paying money to chat with a specific sex worker how is it even legal to let some random dude in a third world country pretend to be the person I'm supposed to be talking to? I've never personally engaged in these types of systems, but I don't think there's a problem with them as long as they are run honestly. It sounds like Onlyfans is exploiting workers an…

Someone paid to have a fantasy of sex, and they got that fantasy. If they don't like it, they don't do it again, and this is true whether it's "the model" or someone else. If they do like it, what's the issue? This is like saying you paid for a celebrity plumber & a regular plumber did the work, but you're upset because you wanted the celebrity. "The job" got done one way or another. They're selling digital handjobs…

That’s not what they paid for, they paid to speak to person x, not person y.
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