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Online age-verification tools for child safety are surveilling adults

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Re: Online age-verification tools for child safety are surveilling adults

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kristopolous wrote: post #14
bilekas wrote: post #7

The fact that these tools are 'active' centric, i.e : You must perform an action to validate you're NOT a child, these will never protect children. A predator simply needs not to verify anything and appear benign and ironically more anonymous than law abiding people. I'm not saying the inverse is the answer either, just that if anyone without an agenda of surveillance looked at this for a second, the penny would have…

Sob stories about children are always weaponized for oppression. It was used to bash interracial marriage, gay rights, suppress dissent, attack the first amendment, and now this. Whenever you hear some dramatic story involving kids about how you have to live a little less free, know the tactic.

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Re: Online age-verification tools for child safety are surveilling adults

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john_strinlai wrote: post #50
tmaly wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have gotten several notices of medical data being leaked over the last two years. I thought HIPPA law had very harsh fines for this, but I guess they just look the other way.

unfortunately, even if the fine seems harsh, if it is less than the profits generated the fine is an operating expense and not a deterrent.

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Re: Online age-verification tools for child safety are surveilling adults

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Post by 999900000999 »

dwroberts wrote: post #115
999900000999 wrote: post #92

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China has much lower crime, cheaper healthcare and is making progress in other aspects. We’re rapidly regressing into prideful ignorance. People are being encouraged to drink raw milk and fear vaccines. 19 century illnesses are making a resurgence. Citizens are being indefinitely detained for “looking” like immigrants.

> China has much lower crime, cheaper healthcare and is making progress in other aspects. It is also a totalitarian regime where criticising the state can get you, and possibly your family, ‘disappeared’

Sure it is, luckily we’re catching up!

> For Indigenous Americans it’s unthinkable, but true. ICE is arresting, detaining Native Americans.

https://idahocapitalsun.com/2026/02/10/for-indigenous-americ...

Detain first , ask pesky questions about citizenship and civil rights later.

Re: Online age-verification tools for child safety are surveilling adults

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Post by Scapeghost »

code4life wrote: post #126
tinfoilhatter wrote: post #120

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This totalitarian agenda has been in the works for far longer than a quarter century. It's not just rich old people either. We're witnessing the creation of the beast system in real time. The one that is prophesized in the Book of Revelation.

It is both scary to watch and yet fun to be alive to see it come to fruition. It is occurring in every dimension, including the ability to track who buys and sells with crypto currencies along with the ability to punish or reward people based on ai hardware software infrastructure deployments.

Reddit bans users based on what they upvoted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditSafety/comments/1j4cd53/warni...

"We know that the culture of a community is not just what gets posted, but what is engaged with. Voting comes with responsibility."

Re: Online age-verification tools for child safety are surveilling adults

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Scapeghost wrote: post #62

Man... How did yall white Westerners turn out to be the weakest people in the world? You were supposed to be the bastions of freedom and justice, and the rest of the world begrudgingly admired you for that and were slowly improving to become like you, but ever since 9/11/2001 the rich old people that rule you have been feeding you boogeymen to make you their complacent b*tches and you lay down and crawl along and acc…

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Re: Online age-verification tools for child safety are surveilling adults

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Post by lapcat »

mullingitover wrote: post #128
lapcat wrote: post #127

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> Man... How did yall white Westerners turn out to be the weakest people in the world? You were supposed to be the bastions of freedom and justice This is a misunderstanding of American history. From its founding by wealthy white male landowners and slaveowners, the US was by design a plutocracy, enshrined in the Constitution with various anti-democratic (small "d") measures such as separation of powers, the electora…

> with various anti-democratic (small "d") Yes, because the designers of the system were well-read and understood that raw democracy, like oligarchy and autocracy, is something that republics devolve into. Rule by the many is great, but the historical evidence shows it's clearly unstable. The Constitution is designed to maximize the advantages while hedging against its inherent instability. > The game is rigged in fa…

> Yes, because the designers of the system were well-read

Well-read in the 18th century. And they borrowed heavily from 17th century philosopher John Locke. Imagine relying on 17th or 18th century medicine now.

The founders weren't nearly as wise as they're alleged to be. For example, they thought their system would suppress political parties, and then political parties arose almost immediately.

> Rule by the many is great, but the historical evidence shows it's clearly unstable.

Which historical evidence are you referring to? Most of history is nondemocratic.

In any case, the US broke out into an extremely bloody civil war less than 75 years after the Constitution was ratified, so it hasn't been "stable", not that stability is even desirable under a plutocracy.

> I would say the game is rigged in favor of production, of which capital is a big part, because those who don't produce end up being governed by those who do.

Let's see a rich dude produce anything all by himself. We like the pretend that the one rich dude is producing everything and his thousands of employees are basically superfluous.

Re: Online age-verification tools for child safety are surveilling adults

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Post by seanw444 »

warmjets222 wrote: post #98
rnxrx wrote: post #45

This is probably fantastic news for the VPN providers. Lots of people who otherwise wouldn't have bothered are now likely incorporating VPN connectivity into their daily routine. This very obviously includes kids. I also wouldn't be surprised if there were plenty of people only dimly aware of the idea of a VPN who are now sitting up and taking note.

I mean, how much longer do you think VPNs will remain legal in the US?

They're used for more than just anonymization. You know, their original purpose.

Re: Online age-verification tools for child safety are surveilling adults

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Post by throwway120385 »

hamburglar wrote: post #125
minton wrote: post #119

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So you’ll just not use Windows, macOS, Linux, iOS, or Android? In other words, you’ll just not use any computers? Seems nonsensical.

Did I miss a memo on Linux somehow requiring age verification now? How would that even work?

There was a California bill that would basically require it.

Re: Online age-verification tools for child safety are surveilling adults

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Post by amarant »

Scapeghost wrote: post #62

Man... How did yall white Westerners turn out to be the weakest people in the world? You were supposed to be the bastions of freedom and justice, and the rest of the world begrudgingly admired you for that and were slowly improving to become like you, but ever since 9/11/2001 the rich old people that rule you have been feeding you boogeymen to make you their complacent b*tches and you lay down and crawl along and acc…

What do you mean "the west"? The US is indeed lost, but don't bundle the rest of us in with those lunatics!

Re: Online age-verification tools for child safety are surveilling adults

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Post by dheera »

Scapeghost wrote: post #62

Man... How did yall white Westerners turn out to be the weakest people in the world? You were supposed to be the bastions of freedom and justice, and the rest of the world begrudgingly admired you for that and were slowly improving to become like you, but ever since 9/11/2001 the rich old people that rule you have been feeding you boogeymen to make you their complacent b*tches and you lay down and crawl along and acc…

This. Every time I point out that I shouldn't have to leak my residential address to private businesses to register to vote or complete KYC, 15 people immediately come out of the woods to point out that addresses are public information.

The point is they shouldn't be. That's how people get stalked, harassed, and murdered at their home.

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