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The optimal age to freeze eggs is 19

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That is true but also a bit unfair, they've also been oddly preoccupied with topics like trying to help the most people and frequently promote giving money to efficient charities to fight against malaria, vitamin A deficiencies and help vaccinate children in very poor countries.

That's their marketing pitch, but revealed preferences are stronger signals than stated ones.

I agree that revealed preferences are stronger signals than stated ones. https://funds.effectivealtruism.org/ shows 52000 donors for $110M, https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/ says more than 10000 donors and more than $490M given.

Re: The optimal age to freeze eggs is 19

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It really seems you have no idea what you’re talking about. I have a couple of friends married for about 4-5 years, with a 4-years old son and a one year old daughter. They both have graduate degrees and stable jobs. They are near 40 years old. Man, they are two zombies. They are drained. They push forward for the immense love of their kids but it’s incredibly evident they’re drained. And the thing is… having kids at…

ya’ll are talking about 2 separate extremes. Of course each extreme has its own set of cons. Hardly surprising. At the end of the day it’s a moot point. You can’t pick when you find love and a suitable partner. :)

> You can’t pick when you find love and a suitable partner. :)

that's a moot point as well.

people find suitable partners all the time, but they don't even take having kids in consideration before a certain age

Re: The optimal age to freeze eggs is 19

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Given two parents, there are four grandparents. Sharing the load across six people is much better than sharing between two.

have you heard of people not surviving into old age, or not being present or not being able to take care of kids? What the fuck is wrong with people in this comment section?

> have you heard of people not surviving into old age

not really, overall the life expectancy is growing well over 80 years old. unless you live, like, in the woods and feed off berries and hunting or something like that.

and yeah sure there might be somebody that loses their parents at 15, absolutely. i'm sorry for them, but they are not statistically representative in any way.

Re: The optimal age to freeze eggs is 19

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Of course, there are too many “learing” centers draining resources…

Then I look forward to DOGE funding more pro-family benefits by eliminating those cases of wasted resources. /s

yup, and that's most likely it's going to be happening automatically.

funding can just be awarded to centers actually performing the work they're paid for, you know.

Re: The optimal age to freeze eggs is 19

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Having done IVF with my wife I think this is the most underrated fertility advice available today. I don't understand why governments of countries with increasing average age and low birth rate don't pay for this for all women. This is one the best pro-family policies that can be implemented.

Because infertility may not be the only reason behind people not procreating in 2026?

At least with people fighting with infertility, they want to have children, so helping them have children is more straightforward list of actions than convincing people who don't want kids to have them.

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have you heard of people not surviving into old age, or not being present or not being able to take care of kids? What the fuck is wrong with people in this comment section?

> have you heard of people not surviving into old age not really, overall the life expectancy is growing well over 80 years old. unless you live, like, in the woods and feed off berries and hunting or something like that. and yeah sure there might be somebody that loses their parents at 15, absolutely. i'm sorry for them, but they are not statistically representative in any way.

ladies and gentlemen, the fucking state of hn.

Re: The optimal age to freeze eggs is 19

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Wow at 19 the last thing I was thinking about was children. In fact i didn't even finish college until 23. Didn't stop backpacking the world till 28. And never had kids at all in the end anyway, never missed them.

But at 19 it would have been the last thing on my mind. Too busy studying and getting drunk (ok probably not in that order :) )

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"Societal optimal" should really include consideration of whether that society can sustain itself.

Sure, but should "societal optimal" be a concern for the individual? I think not. Government economists, maybe.

Rejecting any care or duty towards one's own society is a very modern, very extreme viewpoint. And I don't think it bodes well for societies where it prevails.

Re: The optimal age to freeze eggs is 19

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> have you heard of people not surviving into old age not really, overall the life expectancy is growing well over 80 years old. unless you live, like, in the woods and feed off berries and hunting or something like that. and yeah sure there might be somebody that loses their parents at 15, absolutely. i'm sorry for them, but they are not statistically representative in any way.

ladies and gentlemen, the fucking state of hn.

grounded in reality you mean?
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