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Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by Calzifer »

AznHisoka wrote: post #4

I’m looking at this from a 3rd party of view (definitely not claiming the .net “deserves” to rank higher) 1) the .net version has a couple of very high authority links, namely from theregister and thenewstack (both of which have had lots of engagement). I highly doubt it would have ranked without those links. 2) its only been a week. Give Google time to understand which pages should rank higher. 3) Google is biased t…

> 3) Google is biased towards sites that cover a topic earlier than others.

> I’ve seen pages that are still top 3 for a particular competitive query years later, simply because they were one of the first to write about it.

Reason why I still always get the Java 8 docs for any search. Annoying.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by cucumber3732842 »

r0p3 wrote: post #122
mannanj wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems you have good intention at heart and clearly care about people, and from my observation have some emotional processing and clearing to do to avoid sounding like you are lashing out at whoever internet stranger could fit your mold of comfort to emotionally dump on. Have you considered channeling that energy into advocacy or volunteerism? I feel you'd like that.

Incredible troll lol. "Have you considered volunteering?" In response to frustration at a massive federal initiative being shut down is hilarious.

Now, I'm not gonna endorse the original position, but on some level it's also a non-troll. Enough time spent at a soup kitchen will turn just about anybody into Ron Paul. If you want someone to have realistic opinions on social welfare programs based on their actual impact in reality and not emotion and indoctrination then putting them into an organization that's actually trying to maximize good done for their budget and/or in contact with the recipients is a good way to do it.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by jimminyx »

cainetighe wrote: post #45
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #33

Duckduckgo actually shows nanoclaw.net as the first result and the github page as second. Another point but DDG's AI feature actually references Nanoclaw.net as a source. Damn I booted up Orion (Kagi) and even Kagi shows nanoclaw.net as the third result after the github page with qwibitai and another github page with your (previous?) github username ie gavrielc which when clicked on also results to the same github pa…

We can fix this quickly at DuckDuckGo, and we will for organics. I suspect part of the problem is I am seeing a TLS issue with the nanoclaw.dev site.

Can you please share the details with me so I can fix? gavriel@qwibit.ai or https://x.com/Gavriel_Cohen

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by iamacyborg »

Google is absolutely idiotic sometimes.

We (as in the team that helped fork and migrate the PoE1 wiki) setup a new domain for the Path of Exile 2 wiki, which is being hosted by the folks at Grinding Gear Games and linked on the official website and in multiple places on the highly trafficked subreddit.

Despite this, Google has decided that the site is not relevant and shouldn't appear anywhere in search results, despite the wiki for the first game appearing everywhere.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by pocksuppet »

markus_zhang wrote: post #23

My advice to all OSS developers: if you open source your project, expect it to be abused in all possible ways. Don't open source if you have anxiety over it. It is how the world works, whether we like it or not. I appreciate that you open source your projects for us to study. But TBH, please help yourself first.

In particular, if you license it MIT, and it's useful, expect Amazon to make a fork, not give you the source code, and each tens of millions of dollars from it while you don't get a cent.

There's writing code for charity, and then there's this. Charity wasn't meant to include hyper-corporations.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by pocksuppet »

MerrimanInd wrote: post #125
adamtaylor_13 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is very generous of you! If I was the author, however, I'd still feel like I've been put in a predicament where I need to spend personal agency to fix something that Google has broken. While that may just be a fact of life, my internal injustice-o-meter would be raging. Like, Google is going to take hours of my life because they, with all their billions of capital, can't figure out the canonically-true website w…

I had the exact same thought while reading the above comment, as helpful and generous as it is. Google's entire business model is to help people find things on the internet. They're an insanely well resourced company with all kinds of smart programmers. They have a moral and financial incentive to direct people to canonical sources of information. And STILL it's on this open-source dev to do all the steps outlined ju…

Google's business model is to help Google's customers pay money to Google. Google Search's customers are mostly scammers who run adverts. Helping the user find a thing is at odds with helping the user find a scam that pays Google money.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by pocksuppet »

mx7zysuj4xew wrote: post #29
yorwba wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article says "Filed takedown notices with Google, Cloudflare, and the domain registrar spaceship.com"

Since the clone site isn't doing anything obviously malicious like spreading malware or blatantly illegal content none of those parties will take any action whatsoever, nor should they.

Most registrars and hosts consider phishing already malicious, even if there's no obvious malware download or anything.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by pocksuppet »

geocar wrote: post #81
MarkSweep wrote: post #79

The link on GitHub to the real site is marked with rel="nofollow". I wonder if it would make sense for GitHub to remove nofollow in some circumstances. Perhaps based on some sort of reputation system or if the site links back to the repo with a in the header? Presumably that would help the real site rank higher when the repo ranks highly.

I don't see any reason that GitHub should use rel="nofollow" Github only has authority because people put their shit there; if people want to point that back at the "right" website, Github should be helping facilitate that, instead of trying to help Google make their dogshit search index any better. I mean, seriously, doesn't Bing own Github anyway?

Perverse incentives strike again! Websites that allow links in user-generated content are spammed with user-generated spam links to improve SEO of spam sites, which hurts the site's own reputation because most of the links on it are spam. To avoid this, all sites use nofollow.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by Andrex »

pocksuppet wrote: post #136
markus_zhang wrote: post #23

My advice to all OSS developers: if you open source your project, expect it to be abused in all possible ways. Don't open source if you have anxiety over it. It is how the world works, whether we like it or not. I appreciate that you open source your projects for us to study. But TBH, please help yourself first.

In particular, if you license it MIT, and it's useful, expect Amazon to make a fork, not give you the source code, and each tens of millions of dollars from it while you don't get a cent. There's writing code for charity, and then there's this . Charity wasn't meant to include hyper-corporations.

Maybe Stallman had something of a point...
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