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President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems

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Re: President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems

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I wouldnt want an AI model to hold my military hostage. DOD should have strong requirements when making contracts with AI companies, including having the models be on their own infrastructure, fully locked down with a master prompt they can see and update.

Nobody would have an issue with that. The problem here is DoD insisting on that kind of control, then threatening and retaliating against Anthropic for declining to participate rather than simply walking away and engaging with a competitor.

Re: President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems

#132

Truth social post: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/1161445529692... Six-month phase out period, that's something. I guess the DoW's been using Claude quite a bit.

Despite the complete Archie Bunker energy in that post here is something interesting from the post: "Anthropic better get their act together, and be helpful during this phase out period, or I will use the Full Power of the Presidency to make them comply, with major civil and criminal consequences to follow." with major civil and criminal consequences to follow. WTF !!!

This shouldn't surprise anybody at this point. This is how Trump behaves on a daily basis. He thinks that he can direct the federal government to do literally anything he wants and operates on pure retribution.

So many people wrote think pieces about how Trump couldn't possibly be a fascist because fascism involves state takeover of corporate power. Hm...

Re: President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Despite the complete Archie Bunker energy in that post here is something interesting from the post: "Anthropic better get their act together, and be helpful during this phase out period, or I will use the Full Power of the Presidency to make them comply, with major civil and criminal consequences to follow." with major civil and criminal consequences to follow. WTF !!!

I am honestly surprised he is being this nice given he could use the war powers act and eminent domain to just seize the company and conscript their employees. I am sure someone will say that is not legal but when has that stopped anyone. What I don't get is why they really want it. I can't think of a worse platform in general to do anything with combat that is, anything in a data-center . I would take the Quake 3 Ar…

> I am sure someone will say that is not legal but when has that stopped anyone.

it has routinely stopped them as the courts have already struck down countless of nonsense by this administration, and they rely exactly on this bluster every time they try something else.

The issue is that even though courts work slower than a president with a smartphone eventually it will all get sorted out and they know this, which is why some people falling for this shock and awe behavior is so silly.

Re: President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems

#134

This should come as no surprise. The administration has no tolerance for anyone with “values” or “scruples” that challenge their power. They fired Judge Advocate Generals (military lawyers) that refused to authorize strikes on civilian boats, for one recent example. If you say ‘no’ for any reason, they fire you.

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Re: President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems

#135
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Despite the complete Archie Bunker energy in that post here is something interesting from the post: "Anthropic better get their act together, and be helpful during this phase out period, or I will use the Full Power of the Presidency to make them comply, with major civil and criminal consequences to follow." with major civil and criminal consequences to follow. WTF !!!

That was in the cards since Hegseth's initial announcement, when he brandished the option for Anthropic to be put on the same level as China and Russia, i.e. the same level as State enemies of the US. Got to give it tho Anthropic's CEO, I had first though that he'd give in faster, looks like he's still clinging on. Also see what happened to Joseph Nacchio in the early 2000s [1]: > He was convicted of 19 counts of ins…

They won’t be brandished as a supply chain risk because the supply chain members are good at lobbying and they like Claude.

As an example, Amazon is a defense contractor and uses Claude heavily internally for development. They are also major investors in Anthropic. Amazon would not want Claude to be banned from use on developing AWS services that may be cross sold to the government. Multiply this by every defense company that uses Claude (eg anduril and Palantir).

They could totally try and punish Anthropic executives of course. That seems likely.

Re: President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems

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I have a feeling they will end up going with grok.

They'll probably try, but the problem is everyone actually using these models knows Grok sucks: [0]. > Demand from other agencies to use Grok has been anemic, people familiar with the matter said, except in a few cases where people wanted to use it to mimic a bad actor for defensive testing. [0]: https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/elon-musk-xai... ?

Does Grok suck? I have never used it.

Re: President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems

#137

This should come as no surprise. The administration has no tolerance for anyone with “values” or “scruples” that challenge their power. They fired Judge Advocate Generals (military lawyers) that refused to authorize strikes on civilian boats, for one recent example. If you say ‘no’ for any reason, they fire you.

Russia got a deal of a rube

Re: President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems

#139
post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am honestly surprised he is being this nice given he could use the war powers act and eminent domain to just seize the company and conscript their employees. I am sure someone will say that is not legal but when has that stopped anyone. What I don't get is why they really want it. I can't think of a worse platform in general to do anything with combat that is, anything in a data-center . I would take the Quake 3 Ar…

> I am sure someone will say that is not legal but when has that stopped anyone. it has routinely stopped them as the courts have already struck down countless of nonsense by this administration, and they rely exactly on this bluster every time they try something else. The issue is that even though courts work slower than a president with a smartphone eventually it will all get sorted out and they know this, which is…

The issue is that even though courts work slower than a president

So ... not stopped the president. Make a move, eventually ruled naughty, shift to another move, ruled a no-no, take an alternate path, rinse repeat. How does one fix the courts or is it working as intended?

Re: President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems

#140

This should come as no surprise. The administration has no tolerance for anyone with “values” or “scruples” that challenge their power. They fired Judge Advocate Generals (military lawyers) that refused to authorize strikes on civilian boats, for one recent example. If you say ‘no’ for any reason, they fire you.

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Should humans tolerate contracts that say “you may not use this thing in this particular way”
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