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Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

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Re: Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

#133

Props to Dario and Anthropic for taking a moral stand. A rarity in tech these days.

A moral stand? ... What? Did we read the same statement? It opens right out the gate with:

>I believe deeply in the existential importance of using AI to defend the United States and other democracies, and to defeat our autocratic adversaries.

>Anthropic has therefore worked proactively to deploy our models to the Department of War and the intelligence community. We were the first frontier AI company to deploy our models in the US government’s classified networks, the first to deploy them at the National Laboratories, and the first to provide custom models for national security customers. Claude is extensively deployed across the Department of War and other national security agencies for mission-critical applications, such as intelligence analysis, modeling and simulation, operational planning, cyber operations, and more.

which I find frankly disgusting.

Re: Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

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As a "foreign national", what's the deal with making the distinction between domestic mass surveillance and foreign mass surveillance? Are there no democracies aside from the US? Don't we know since Snowden that if the US wants to do domestic surveillance they'll just ask GCHQ to share their "foreign" surveillance capabilities?

> what's the deal with making the distinction between domestic mass surveillance and foreign mass surveillance?

A large portion of Americans believe in "citizen rights", not "human rights". By that logic, non-Americans do not have a right to privacy.

Re: Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

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post #26

Props to Dario and Anthropic for taking a moral stand. A rarity in tech these days.

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> Anthropic will betray you for a multi-year government contract worth tens of billions of dollars.

What are the odds they will rebrand Misanthropic by then?

Re: Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

#139

Idk if the reporting was just biased before, but from what I saw is that this time last week, it was thought you couldn't use Anthropic to bring about harm, and now they're making it clear that they just don't want it used domestically and not fully autonomously. Like maybe it always was just this, but I feel every article I read, regardless of the spin angle, implied do no harm was pretty much one of the rules.

You, using normal Claude under the consumer ToS, cannot use it to make weapons, kill people, spy on adversaries, etc. The Pentagon, using War Claude, under their currently-existing contract, can use it to make weapons and spy on (foreign) adversaries, but not to (autonomously) kill people. I don't love this but I am even less excited about the CCP having WarKimi while we have no military AI.
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