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It was always difficult to get normal people to understand why the tech billionaires are so bad until Thiel gave us that clip of him getting stumped by the "should humanity survive" question. I'm forever grateful to Thiel for that clip, and to Musk for his crippling Twitter addiction. It was pretty impossible to get regular people to understand that folks like Bill Gates or Larry Ellison are skinwalkers when all they…

A frustrating aspect of the AI debates has been the number of people who believe people like Sam Altman who say that the immense wealth created by AGI would be distributed to the masses to improve their lives. The notion that the mega wealthy Elon/Sams/Bezos elites are going to willingly give up unprecedented wealth because millions of people have become unemployed and impoverished is so wildly out of step with how t…

It's beyond naive. But there are also still people believing Elon Musk is going to put humanity on Mars for keeps and out of altruism.

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There were a few popular Discord channels where moderators would regularly suspend or ban me. They were toxic communities that advocated for doxxing for mundane reasons. The idea that Discord moderators (even worse than Reddit mods) could have access to verified identities from Palantir related databases sounds so atrocious. Who exactly in their right minds thought this was a good idea in the first place?

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Where do you guys come up with these ideas? Simply having a lot of money makes someone evil? Why? They are obviously all quite competitive in business but the philanthropy they've done is pretty crazy. Gates for example is giving away hundreds of billions of dollars. What does it even matter if he's compassionate or not if he's doing that?

> Where do you guys come up with these ideas? By thinking.

Thinking, experiencing the world, knowing that throughout our entire history of a species that tales of "excess greed" were also cautionary tales on how greed ruins society throughout the entire world.

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post #49

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It was always difficult to get normal people to understand why the tech billionaires are so bad until Thiel gave us that clip of him getting stumped by the "should humanity survive" question. I'm forever grateful to Thiel for that clip, and to Musk for his crippling Twitter addiction. It was pretty impossible to get regular people to understand that folks like Bill Gates or Larry Ellison are skinwalkers when all they…

The only non-evil Billionaire I know are the South park creators although they aren't tech Billionaires. I consider everyone else for the most part to not-be-good people. Because south park decided to personally say essentially bad words to paramount using their episodes, the company which gave them a billion dollars. So they took a billion dollars and they were still consistent with how they've been for decades at t…

I'd think that original creators such as J.K. Rowling, Steven Spielberg, Bruce Springsteen & Taylor Swift (among others) would be other members of the !evil bucket.

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I thought about the same recently, in the context of the Epstein files. You don't become a billionaire by being moral. Each time you don't do something because it's wrong, you lost opportunity to make more money. You start with smaller things, then your standards slide more and more, until you are a billionaire, and you're so corrupt there isn't anything for you to do except make more money. Which makes me wonder, ho…

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Of course the grappling to find one good billionaire begins. While Taylor Swift is not nearly as obviously evil as the tech bros, she grifts the shit out of her fans.

I do think it's kinda evil to create a parasocial relationship situation with millions of young girls and then mine every last penny of disposable income out of them. She could have just as easily superstar multi-millionare with far less grifting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKWE1fH0pDo

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the damage is already done though. Discord just burned years of goodwill and trust. Im in a few discord communities and while they aren't moving Im not looking to join any more right now because of this whole thing.

I've exported any servers that I run as backups and plan to uninstall if I get an age verification prompt personally.

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post #95

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I thought about the same recently, in the context of the Epstein files. You don't become a billionaire by being moral. Each time you don't do something because it's wrong, you lost opportunity to make more money. You start with smaller things, then your standards slide more and more, until you are a billionaire, and you're so corrupt there isn't anything for you to do except make more money. Which makes me wonder, ho…

Can't you also make money by making a good decision that benefits you and another party? I feel like I do this all the time, just on a relatively small scale.

"relatively small scale" is doing all the work in this sentence, no?

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> politically exposed persons I do not know what this euphemism means. Is this like the modern trend of calling inmates “justice involved individuals”?

Translate: People who are likely to be attacked by (Putin|Orban|Erdogan|Trump) or similar.

Re: Discord cuts ties with identity verification software, Persona

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post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought about the same recently, in the context of the Epstein files. You don't become a billionaire by being moral. Each time you don't do something because it's wrong, you lost opportunity to make more money. You start with smaller things, then your standards slide more and more, until you are a billionaire, and you're so corrupt there isn't anything for you to do except make more money. Which makes me wonder, ho…

Can't you also make money by making a good decision that benefits you and another party? I feel like I do this all the time, just on a relatively small scale.

Not at the scale of billions of dollars. Sure, some of their money comes from positive contributions to society. But you don't get to be a billionaire if you restrict yourself to that. Millionaire? Sure, possible.

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These guys need to spend a few million on helping them be cool because its fucking their money up. Zuck was headed in the right direction for a minute there. Thiel and Altman are still too weird for most people. Karp is probably in the middle to me. Tasteless, sauceless, billionaires.
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