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Well ... isn't organized religion a subscription service for everyday life?
You do not have to pay anything.
Unless you live in a place with mandatory state supported church.
Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies
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Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies
#132No priest will feed sufficient context about their community into the context window - even if they were skilled enough to do so, unless the model was locally hosted, doing so would be a violation of their vows of silence. Good homilies are written with the particular community in mind. If it were more effective to write a homily for a generic public, the Vatican would have started publishing standard homilies long a…
You have a lot of faith in the qualities of average priests.
Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies
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Well ... isn't organized religion a subscription service for everyday life?
You do not have to pay anything.
Where does the money come from? Religious services are generally funded by donations, and these donations are usually done in the open, whereby (from what I saw) regularly attending and not donating the expected amount would put you in a socially uncomfortable situation.
Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies
#134No priest will feed sufficient context about their community into the context window - even if they were skilled enough to do so, unless the model was locally hosted, doing so would be a violation of their vows of silence. Good homilies are written with the particular community in mind. If it were more effective to write a homily for a generic public, the Vatican would have started publishing standard homilies long a…
Bro as a kid I used to go to church every Sunday and I guarantee that not a single person from my entire village understood what the priest was saying, including the priest himself, who was simply reading whatever higher-ups had given him. It was perfect slop because literally nobody cared about the content, it was all form - it needed to sound important and complicated enough to be able to be used in religious ritua…
>>Bro as a kid I used to go to church every Sunday
I mean, not to dismiss your experience, but in my weekly Sunday going to church in Poland the priest would write an actual homily that felt relevant to the community. But then our small town had 3 churches, and each one had a different style - people would talk about preferring one over the other because they had more interesting "content".
But yeah, there was the message from the regional Bishop or the Archbishop of Poland or sometimes directly from the Vatican, then the reading from the old testament, then the homily which I'm 99% was written by the priest giving the mass.
>> I guarantee that not a single person from my entire village understood what the priest was saying
Well, I wouldn't say not a single person did, but yeah, we had those 3 churches, probably 10k seats each, every one was rammed on the sunday, but I'd say 90% of people there were only there to tick it off and snoozed through the whole thing. But it's not because the homily was boring, it's because going to church on sunday was(maybe still is?) a thing you have to do or people will make fun out of you.
Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies
#135Well, for 'The Nine Billion Names of God' the monks finally ended up renting a computer. ;-)
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It will surprise you but we don't literally believe there is a face in the sky looking down.
It will surprise you but almost all religious people I talked to believe that.
There is no face. The depictions of God the Father are relatively new (in the history of the church; it's still Renaissance). Some people used to have problem with them (Jesus can be depicted, as he was a man, but can be Father?) but then it calmed down.
If people think it's literally a face in the sky, they are probably mentally challenged.
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Cover both sides in neutrality???!!! The geocentric position is silly and wrong. There are no two sides here.
There were two sides on the evidence available at the time. The Tychonic model was probably the one best supported by evidence. its worth bearing in mind that the Copernican model is also badly wrong - the sun is not the centre of the universe, just the solar system.
I think incomplete would be a better description; it was roughly right for our solar system and far more right than thinking everything revolved around the earth.
Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies
#138Not defending the use of AI, but plenty of people who grew up going to Mass on Sunday know that priests often recycle old homilies, deliver lazily written homilies or homilies that were clearly pulled from the internet, or just skip them if they couldn't think of anything that week or are running late for something. Absolute worst was when an intelligent priest put in incredible effort, only for it to go over the hea…
How are bad human-written homilies worse than AI written ones? But if you like the idea: you don't need a priest for that at all! A QR code with a prompt will do just fine in this case. There is no person in the world that is capable of weekly delivery of meaningful insight into your life. Or any topic, to be honest. AI won't solve that, it just "recycles old homilies".
Again, not defending the use of AI. My comment was more as a general response to people who maybe don't have a real life experience of listening to Catholic homilies and have unrealistic ideas of how much effort priests would normally put into them pre-ChatGPT.
In retrospect, I probably should have replied to a specific comment.
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Well ... isn't organized religion a subscription service for everyday life?
You do not have to pay anything.
Right, that's why they have massive churches adorned with gold and intricate sculptures. Just because it technically isn't required to pay does not mean that years of brainwashing won't condition you to give your money away. I've only been a few times, but seeing old people queue up to give a sizable part of their pension to the church just made me sad.