Few customers value tokens anywhere near what it costs the big API vendors. When the bubble pops the only survivors will be whoever can offer tokens at as close to zero cost as possible. Also whoever is selling hardware for local AI.
How Taalas “prints” LLM onto a chip?
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#132*Framework sells laptops and parts such that in theory users can own a ~~ship~~ laptop of Theseus over time without having to buy a whole new laptop when something breaks or needs upgrade.
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#133(Of course excluding any cosmic rays / bit flips)?
I didnt see a editable temperature parameter on their chatjimmy demosite -- only a topK.
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#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
The middle ground here would be an FPGA, but I belive you would need a very expensive one to implement an LLM on it.
FPGAs would be less efficient than GPUs. FPGAs don’t scale if they did all GPUs would’ve been replaced by FPGAs for graphics a long time ago. You use an FPGA when spinning a custom ASIC doesn’t makes financial sense and generic processor such as a CPU or GPU is overkill. Arguably the middle ground here are TPUs, just taking the most efficient parts of a “GPU” when it comes to these workloads but still relying on memo…
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#1358B coefficients are packed into 53B transistors, 6.5 transistors per coefficient. Two-inputs NAND gate takes 4 transistors and register takes about the same. One coefficient gets processed (multiplied by and result added to a sum) with less than two two-inputs NAND gates. I think they used block quantization: one can enumerate all possible blocks for all (sorted) permutations of coefficients and for each layer place…
I'm looking forward to the model.toVHDL() method in PyTorch.
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#136I'm surprised people are surprised. Of course this is possible, and of course this is the future. This has been demonstrated already: why do you think we even have GPUs at all?! Because we did this exact same transition from running in software to largely running in hardware for all 2D and 3D Computer Graphics. And these LLMs are practically the same math, it's all just obvious and inevitable, if you're paying attent…
I don't expect it's like super commercially viable today, but for sure things need to trend to radically more efficient AI solutions.
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#137This would be a very interesting future. I can imagine Gemma 5 Mini running locally on hardware, or a hard-coded "AI core" like an ALU or media processor that supports particular encoding mechanisms like H.264, AV1, etc. Other than the obvious costs (but Taalas seems to be bringing back the structured ASIC era so costs shouldn't be that low [1]), I'm curious why this isn't getting much attention from larger companies…
Apple should have done this yesterday. A local AI on my phone/Macbook is all I really want from this tech. The cloud-based AI (OpenAI, etc.) are todays AOL.
It’s for cloud based servers.
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
This would be a hell of a hot power bank. It uses about as much power as my oven. So probably more like inside a huge cooling device outside the house. Or integrated into the heating system of the house. (Still compelling!)
*the whole server uses 2.2kw or whatever, not a single board. I think that was for 8 boards or something.
To be fair, 2.5kW does sound too much for a single 3x3cm chip, it would probably melt.
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#139Re: How Taalas “prints” LLM onto a chip?
#140This would be a very interesting future. I can imagine Gemma 5 Mini running locally on hardware, or a hard-coded "AI core" like an ALU or media processor that supports particular encoding mechanisms like H.264, AV1, etc. Other than the obvious costs (but Taalas seems to be bringing back the structured ASIC era so costs shouldn't be that low [1]), I'm curious why this isn't getting much attention from larger companies…